GoogleGroups Acting Hinky?

Jay Honeck wrote:
Can anyone recommend any other web-based newsgroup portals?

Sorry, no. Use a real newsreader. I second the recommendations to
either 1) try out Martin Hotze's offer or 2) get a "text-only" or low-
volume account from one of the commercial news services.

Real newsreaders have been under continuous development since about 1981;
Web "newsreaders" have been under intermittent development since about
1995 or so. It shows.

Matt Roberds

Sorry, no. Use a real newsreader.

I used a newsreader for years (and still could, on my home ISP,
Mediacom cable), but our hotel ISP is Qwest DSL, and they charge extra
for newsgroup access. Since I really can't justify paying extra hotel
money just to surf the newsgroups, I am forced to "get by" with
GoogleGroups.

And, to be honest, Google is an excellent way to access the 'groups,
usually. They just can't seem to leave well enough alone, and are
continually screwing up what is already a nearly flawless interface.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"



I second the recommendations to
either 1) try out Martin Hotze's offer or 2) get a "text-only" or low-
volume account from one of the commercial news services.

Real newsreaders have been under continuous development since about 1981;
Web "newsreaders" have been under intermittent development since about
1995 or so. It shows.

Matt Roberds

On 4/26/2007 9:45:21 PM, Jay Honeck wrote:

I used a newsreader for years (and still could, on my home ISP,
Mediacom cable), but our hotel ISP is Qwest DSL, and they charge extra
for newsgroup access. Since I really can't justify paying extra hotel
money just to surf the newsgroups, I am forced to "get by" with
GoogleGroups.

WTF, Jay. Why did you ignore my post and selectively snip the other post that
recommended going with the free news service offered by one of this group's
own? Why are you whining about the extra cost of your ISP's newsgroup service
when there are free alternatives to both your own ISP's version and Google's
flaky service? Why is it that every six months or so you have to post about
your miserable experiences with Google's groups and then decline every bit of
advice suggesting quite capable and free alternatives?


--
Peter

On Apr 26, 9:21 pm, "Peter R." wrote:
On 4/26/2007 9:45:21 PM, Jay Honeck wrote:

I used a newsreader for years (and still could, on my home ISP,
Mediacom cable), but our hotel ISP is Qwest DSL, and they charge extra
for newsgroup access. Since I really can't justify paying extra hotel
money just to surf the newsgroups, I am forced to "get by" with
GoogleGroups.

WTF, Jay. Why did you ignore my post and selectively snip the other post that
recommended going with the free news service offered by one of this group's
own? Why are you whining about the extra cost of your ISP's newsgroup service
when there are free alternatives to both your own ISP's version and Google's
flaky service? Why is it that every six months or so you have to post about
your miserable experiences with Google's groups and then decline every bit of
advice suggesting quite capable and free alternatives?

--
Peter

And what is this altnerative that you keep mentioning? Care to share
a URL?

On 4/26/2007 11:23:34 PM, wrote:

And what is this altnerative that you keep mentioning? Care to share
a URL?

http://tinyurl.com/yt9bwq

(scroll to the top of the thread)

or

a very quick Google search turned up this page:

http://freenews.maxbaud.net/


--
Peter

WTF, Jay. Why did you ignore my post and selectively snip the other post that
recommended going with the free news service offered by one of this group's
own?

I was trying to avoid the issue, but if you are referring to our
Austrian friend, I personally would not place anything of value --
even something so trivial as usenet access -- in the hands of someone
so...bizarre.

I prefer to place my business in the hands of rational beings, thank
you, and Marty has proved time and again, over a period of many years,
that he is (to put it politely) whacked. Even free is too high a
price.

Why are you whining about the extra cost of your ISP's newsgroup service
when there are free alternatives to both your own ISP's version and Google's
flaky service? Why is it that every six months or so you have to post about
your miserable experiences with Google's groups and then decline every bit of
advice suggesting quite capable and free alternatives?

I was actually trying to see if this was a universal problem, or if
there was something wrong solely with my configuration/system.

Thankfully, it's a moot point, as GoogleGroups are back to their
normal, excellent selves...
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

So chances are great that this topic won't be brought up by you again for a
couple of months. Let's see what other topics "of general interest" will be
brought up by you "in the name of all here" ...

At least my threads have *something* to do with
rec.aviation.piloting.

I just scanned 5 pages of your posts (again, something GoogleGroups
excels at) and slogged through your numerous posts on how stupid
presidential TFRs are, how stupid it is to expect English to be spoken
in the US, and an occasional comment on someone ELSE'S flying
experiences -- but strangely, none -- not one -- about your own
piloting experiences.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

Jay Honeck wrote:
I used a newsreader for years (and still could, on my home ISP,
Mediacom cable), but our hotel ISP is Qwest DSL, and they charge extra
for newsgroup access. Since I really can't justify paying extra hotel
money just to surf the newsgroups, I am forced to "get by" with
GoogleGroups.

You don't have to get newsgroup access from your ISP! You can get free
or pay service from anybody you want, and just use whatever connection
you have handy. Specifically, this means that you could pay for
news service out of the "personal" bucket of money and just use the
connection at the hotel to access the pay news server.

If you don't want to spend any money at all, http://www.newzbot.com/
lists several free Usenet servers. Most of the free servers do not
allow posting, but if you just want to read, they work fine.

Matt Roberds

On Fri, 27 Apr 2007 08:52:18 GMT, wrote in :

Jay Honeck wrote:
I used a newsreader for years (and still could, on my home ISP,
Mediacom cable), but our hotel ISP is Qwest DSL, and they charge extra
for newsgroup access. Since I really can't justify paying extra hotel
money just to surf the newsgroups, I am forced to "get by" with
GoogleGroups.

You don't have to get newsgroup access from your ISP! You can get free
or pay service from anybody you want, and just use whatever connection
you have handy. Specifically, this means that you could pay for
news service out of the "personal" bucket of money and just use the
connection at the hotel to access the pay news server.

The cheapest service I found was Astraweb. $10 for 25 GB of bandwidth.
No time limit. Accessible with Agent from anywhere I travel.

I have scarcely scratched the surface of my 25 GB allowance since I read
text groups only. I shifted my primary allegiance to Supernews for
various and sundry reasons that are irrelevant here, but I still use
Astraweb from time to time when I'm on the road.

http://www.news.astraweb.com/plans.html

Marty
--
Big-8 newsgroups: humanities.*, misc.*, news.*, rec.*, sci.*, soc.*, talk.*
See http://www.big-8.org for info on how to add or remove newsgroups.

Jay Honeck wrote:
All day yesterday Google Groups showed the "newest" messages as being
more than 24 hours old.

There's lots of complaints on other groups as well. Something very
wrong has been happening there. Some even attributed it to censorship
(on the more controversial groups).