Ohio midair crash kills 3

Thanks for the transcription of the audio file. I should also add that
my computer's clock was about 9 minutes 30 second behind the official
time, so all the time stamps must be advanced by approx 10 minutes to
be correct.



On May 16, 11:48 am, Larry Dighera wrote:
On 15 May 2007 20:08:50 -0700, Andrew Sarangan
wrote in .com:

I live not too far from the accident scene, and I have a scanner that
records all CTAF communications in the vicinity and uploads to my
website. I have not searched the audio archives carefully, but perhaps
one of you might want to take a look and find if anything relevant to
this crash shows up. Here is the link:

http://www.sarangan.org/aviation/scan_audio/

Yours may be the sole record of these transmissions. Thank you for
making them available.

From the FAA preliminary information (below):

Date: 05/11/2007
Time: 1903 UTC
Time: 15:03 Local (UTC -4:00)
N6614D, A CESSNA 172
N1835L, A BEECH V35B

Cincinnati-Blue Ash Airport KISZ
Elevation: 856 ft.
Airport Information:http://www.airnav.com/airport/KISZ
Chart:http://skyvector.com/#21-106-3-2057-1518

Here's what I found on the tapes (probably the last words of the MAC
pilots):

Audio File: May 11, 2007; 14-15; METAR (KMGY)
35009KT 310V020 10SM CLR 28/10
Position
In File Aircraft Broadcast
------------------------------------------------------------
10:17 Bonanza N1835L 5 mi N, will be entering L DW Rny6 FS
10:25 Cessna N6614D Just departed rny6 ... departing rnwy
20 clmbg thru 2,100...Will be looking
for the Bonanza on...
10:49 Bonanza N1835L 4 mi ... 6,000' we'll be entering L DW
for ...6

Audio File: May 11, 2007; 15-16; METAR (KMGY)
02008KT 10SM CLR 28/12
Position
In File Aircraft Broadcast
------------------------------------------------------------
...
02:43 Helo 6CS is Sky5 about 3 to the S @
2,00 mid-field xing NB
02:51 Sky5
03:00 Sheriff 1,400 aprch frm W
...
03:50 Sky5 ...275 @ 2,000 in orbit
04:26 Sheriff? ... mi NE of Blue Ash
06:31 Sky5 Sky5 helo & Sheriff helo orbiting
about 2 mi NE @ 1,500 to 2,000
06:42 Sky5 You call'n Blue Ash or 229 Sheriff?
06:45 Sheriff Blue Ash
06:46 Sky5 Ok, we're up with ya.
06:48 Sheriff ...they've already called for CFR ...
... about 10 or 15 min out...however
long it takes for them to get goin'
06:57 Sky5 Gotcha. Copy 10 min. We'll stay 2 or
abv 2,000 stay out of your way.
07:11 Sky5 Sky5 helo & Sheriff helo orbiting abt
2 2-1/2 NE of Blue Ash just outside of
275blue

So it appears that the Bonanza was inbound from the north at 6,000'
(5,144' AGL) for left downwind entry to runway six, while the Cessna
had just departed runway six and was at 2,100' (1,244' AGL) at the
time of his last transmission. It would seem that both aircraft would
have had their view of the other obscured by their low/high wing
configurations. Tragic.

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http://www.faa.gov/data_statistics/a...eliminary_data...
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** Report created 5/16/2007 Record 3 **
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IDENTIFICATION
Regis#: 1835L Make/Model: BE36 Description: 36 Bonanza
Date: 05/11/2007 Time: 1903

Event Type: Accident Highest Injury: Fatal Mid Air: Y Missing:
Damage: Destroyed

LOCATION
City: CINCINNATI State: OH Country: US

DESCRIPTION
N6614D, A CESSNA 172 AIRCRAFT AND N1835L, A BEECH V35B AIRCRAFT
COLLIDED IN
MIDAIR 2.5 MILES FROM THE AIRPORT, THERE WERE TWO PERSONS ON BOARD
N6614D,
AND ONE PERSON ON BOARD N1835L, ALL THREE PERSONS ON BOARD THE TWO
AIRCRAFT
WERE FATALLY INJURED, CINCINNATTI, OH

INJURY DATA Total Fatal: 1
# Crew: 1 Fat: 1 Ser: 0 Min: 0
Unk:
# Pass: 0 Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0
Unk:
# Grnd: Fat: 0 Ser: 0 Min: 0
Unk:

WEATHER: 1852Z 35009KT 10SM BKN130 BKN250 29/11 A2996

OTHER DATA
Activity: Unknown Phase: Unknown Operation: Other

FAA FSDO: CINCINNATI, OH (GL05) Entry date:
05/14/2007

On 16 May 2007 12:14:55 -0700, Andrew Sarangan
wrote in . com:

Thanks for the transcription of the audio file.

You are welcome.

I should also add that my computer's clock was about 9 minutes 30 second
behind the official time, so all the time stamps must be advanced by
approx 10 minutes to be correct.

That may be true of the times shown on your web site, but the times
included in my transcription are offsets into the audio files that
have little correlation with time of day, as the receiver's squelch
eliminated all the dead air time.

How have you configured your receiver to record these files? I might
like to do something similar.

Andrew, have you contacted the Cincinnati FSDO to let them know you have
this?

Listening to the preceeding/succeeding recordings, all other traffic at
Blue Ash was using R24.

I heard the following...

8:50... unintelligible for Blue Ash

10:15... Blue Ash traffic Bonanza 1835L is five miles north of the field
will be entering left downwind runway six full stop.

10:22...Blue Ash traffic Cessna 6614D has just departed runway six now
departing on a heading 360, climbing through two thousand one hundred
will be looking for the Bonanza on ?.

10:41... Blue Ash traffic Bonanza 35L four miles from the field at 3000
feet will be entering left downwind for runway six.

10:55... a mic is keyed and an unintelligeble, excited voice and audio
squeal can be heard. The transmission last one second.

11:14... Cherokee 3874W calls midfield for right downwind 24.

On May 16, 5:28 pm, john smith wrote:
Listening to the preceeding/succeeding recordings, all other traffic at
Blue Ash was using R24.

I heard the following...

8:50... unintelligible for Blue Ash

10:15... Blue Ash traffic Bonanza 1835L is five miles north of the field
will be entering left downwind runway six full stop.

10:22...Blue Ash traffic Cessna 6614D has just departed runway six now
departing on a heading 360, climbing through two thousand one hundred
will be looking for the Bonanza on ?.

10:41... Blue Ash traffic Bonanza 35L four miles from the field at 3000
feet will be entering left downwind for runway six.

10:55... a mic is keyed and an unintelligeble, excited voice and audio
squeal can be heard. The transmission last one second.

11:14... Cherokee 3874W calls midfield for right downwind 24.


That file is only 10:13 duration, I've searched the ones before and
after... I downloaded it again to be sure, and still get a file that
ends before either of these planes make a call. The one after it,
nothing but mention of the aftermath. I've tried a bunch of them
now... where'd I take the wrong turn?

On May 16, 8:48 am, Larry Dighera wrote:

Audio File: May 11, 2007; 14-15; METAR (KMGY)
35009KT 310V020 10SM CLR 28/10
Position
In File Aircraft Broadcast
------------------------------------------------------------
10:17 Bonanza N1835L 5 mi N, will be entering L DW Rny6 FS
10:25 Cessna N6614D Just departed rny6 ... departing rnwy
20 clmbg thru 2,100...Will be looking
for the Bonanza on...
10:49 Bonanza N1835L 4 mi ... 6,000' we'll be entering L DW
for ...6

So it appears that the Bonanza was inbound from the north at 6,000'
(5,144' AGL) for left downwind entry to runway six, while the Cessna
had just departed runway six and was at 2,100' (1,244' AGL) at the
time of his last transmission.

I don't know if I'd say that. According to your transcript, at
10:25 the Cessna reported departing runway 6, then it appears that was
corrected to runway 20. Maybe I'm reading it wrong? I can't really
tell which runway the Cessna departed from for sure.

John Galban=====N4BQ (PA28-180)

Belay that last post. I just realized that the airport in question
only has runways 6 and 24. Did the pilot of the Cessna know that?
Did he mean 24 when he said 20? He seemed to be trying to correct
something.

John Galban=====N4BQ (PA28-180)

Larry Dighera wrote:

The Federal Aviation Administration had no information about the
planes' flight plans or why they were so close together. Blue Ash
Airport, a runway used by small planes, is several miles away.

That's a bit of an overstatement. The plane that crashed closest to the
airport landed less than three miles away from the approach end of
runway 24. The other plane came down about a mile north of that. They
were outside the traffic pattern, but well within the airport area.


State Highway Patrol Lt. Wayne Price said investigators assume
both planes took off from there.

I've heard (but have no direct knowledge or proof) that the 172 was an
instructor and instrument student doing instrument approaches and the
Bonanza had just departed. Regardless, it seems that the Bonanza was
either on a departure or an approach and the 172 was conducting training
operations involving landings.

Weather was clear, visibility probably around 10 miles. At this point
we mostly only have speculation.


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