Control Tower without class D

In an earlier post I gave two examples of Class G towers that are
permanent in nature; FWS and GPM.

Class G control towers are NOT all temporary.


On May 15, 10:39 am, Newps wrote:
Class G towers are temporary in nature. When we set up fire towers
every summer they are most often in class G. I wouldn't worry about the
rules as we controllers are really lax at places like this. There are
no tapes and the level of traffic is low. The runway separation rules
are just a guideline. We're not sending someone around because we're a
mere 500 feet short on the separation. You're only going to know about
class G towers by notam.

Danny Deger wrote:
In another thread, I have just read that there might be controlled
airports without having class D airspace, and pilots are supposed to
know this and know to contact the tower and stay of their non-class D
airspace if they are not in contact with the tower.

Can anyone confirm this?

Danny Deger

"Newps" wrote in message
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Class G towers are temporary in nature. When we set up fire towers every
summer they are most often in class G.

Towers in a Class E surface area are temporary in nature. If the tower is
to be permanent the airspace will eventually become Class D.

Towers in Class G airspace may be temporary or permanent.



I wouldn't worry about the rules as we controllers are really lax at
places like this. There are no tapes and the level of traffic is low.
The runway separation rules are just a guideline. We're not sending
someone around because we're a mere 500 feet short on the separation.
You're only going to know about class G towers by notam.



The runway separation rules are as applicable at towers in Class G airspace
as they are anywhere else.

"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote in message
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"Newps" wrote in message
...

Class G towers are temporary in nature. When we set up fire towers every
summer they are most often in class G.

Towers in a Class E surface area are temporary in nature. If the tower is
to be permanent the airspace will eventually become Class D.

Towers in Class G airspace may be temporary or permanent.


Is the difference the class G airports don't have a precision approach. If
I recall the old Control Zones were put in place at airports with precision
approaches.

Danny Deger



I wouldn't worry about the rules as we controllers are really lax at
places like this. There are no tapes and the level of traffic is low.
The runway separation rules are just a guideline. We're not sending
someone around because we're a mere 500 feet short on the separation.
You're only going to know about class G towers by notam.



The runway separation rules are as applicable at towers in Class G
airspace as they are anywhere else.

"Danny Deger" wrote in message
...

Is the difference the class G airports don't have a precision approach.
If I recall the old Control Zones were put in place at airports with
precision approaches.


No. There were airports without control zones that had ILSs and airports
with control zones that did not have ILSs.

Steven P. McNicoll wrote:
"Danny Deger" wrote in message
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Is the difference the class G airports don't have a precision approach.
If I recall the old Control Zones were put in place at airports with
precision approaches.


No. There were airports without control zones that had ILSs and airports
with control zones that did not have ILSs.


Generally, it was an instrument approach and someone (now something) on
the ground to report the weather. But there were exceptions to that
even.

Danny Deger wrote:
In another thread, I have just read that there might be controlled airports
without having class D airspace, and pilots are supposed to know this and
know to contact the tower and stay of their non-class D airspace if they are
not in contact with the tower.

Can anyone confirm this?


I've seen this several times at airports with newly commissioned towers.
Apparently, the FAA can open a tower any old time, but it takes months to
create class D airspace. Airspace changes have to be published in the
federal register and go through the rulemaking process.

The last two towers I remember being commissioned, it was about 6 months
before the class D airspace was depicted on the charts.

The FAA assumes that you would automatically know about a tower without
class D airspace depicted because you're supposed to get all available
information before a flight. This would include the NOTAM for the tower,
which will be there until the charts reflect it.

John Galban=====N4BQ (PA28-180)

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