flying into SFO at night?

On Jun 6, 4:10 pm, Dave J wrote:

Of course, the AF/D (or even airnav.com) has all the answers you need.

-- dave j

Yeah, but the information I'm looking for isn't the kind of info
you'll find on airnav or the AFD. If someone wanted to go take a trip
to my home airport, I'd write for them a few paragraphs of stuff it's
be good for them to know; none of which is in the AFD. You know,
common reporting points the tower requests, typical taxi routes, local
phraseology, stuff like that. Normally you can just kind of roll with
it, but in a complicated Class B environment (especially at night),
I'd hate to get stuck with something like a common taxi instruction I
can't understand and have to ask the controller to repeat multiple
times.

buttman wrote:
Yeah, but the information I'm looking for isn't the kind of info
you'll find on airnav or the AFD. If someone wanted to go take a trip
to my home airport, I'd write for them a few paragraphs of stuff it's
be good for them to know; none of which is in the AFD. You know,
common reporting points the tower requests, typical taxi routes, local
phraseology, stuff like that. Normally you can just kind of roll with
it, but in a complicated Class B environment (especially at night),
I'd hate to get stuck with something like a common taxi instruction I
can't understand and have to ask the controller to repeat multiple
times.

I used to live a few minutes from SFO.
I can't imagine why anyone would want to land there in anything smaller
than a biz jet at any hour. There are several GA airports in close
proximity.

buttman wrote in news:1181182294.943767.83040
@a26g2000pre.googlegroups.com:

On Jun 6, 4:10 pm, Dave J wrote:

Of course, the AF/D (or even airnav.com) has all the answers you need.

-- dave j

Yeah, but the information I'm looking for isn't the kind of info
you'll find on airnav or the AFD.

What, you want to see if there's anyone there who wil object to your
ignorance of RT and traffic rules?

Bertie

buttman wrote in news:1181170213.465731.65700
@j4g2000prf.googlegroups.com:

I'm thinking of doing a night flight to SFO in a C152. Is this going
to be difficult? Will they let me in? Is that place very busy at
night? I plan on arriving at about midnight. Would a touch and go be
possible, or will they make me do a full stop? If so, where can I
expect to taxi and get fuel? If I have to taxi all around the huge and
complex airport, I'll just land somewhere else and get fuel, rather
than risk getting lost and then ran over by a 747.


Good grief.

Bertie

On Jun 6, 7:16 pm, Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
buttman wrote in news:1181170213.465731.65700
@j4g2000prf.googlegroups.com:

I'm thinking of doing a night flight to SFO in a C152. Is this going
to be difficult? Will they let me in? Is that place very busy at
night? I plan on arriving at about midnight. Would a touch and go be
possible, or will they make me do a full stop? If so, where can I
expect to taxi and get fuel? If I have to taxi all around the huge and
complex airport, I'll just land somewhere else and get fuel, rather
than risk getting lost and then ran over by a 747.

Good grief.

Bertie

Hey, I know...lets ask mxsmanic! I bet he has lots of "experience"
flying in and out of SFO! With taxiing, stops for fuel, even a
layover before heading to Tokyo. I bet his knows the field like a
seasoned pro. On second thought.....this is probably a bad idea.
Never mind.

--Jeff

"JB" wrote

On second thought.....this is probably a bad idea.
Never mind.

You should have said, "on first thought, this is probably a bad idea."

And you would have been right. g

Sometimes, this one sounds too much like ........
"you know who."
--
Jim in NC

"bm" == buttman writes:

bm I'm thinking of doing a night flight to SFO in a C152. Is this
bm going to be difficult? Will they let me in? Is that place very
bm busy at night? I plan on arriving at about midnight. Would a
bm touch and go be possible, or will they make me do a full stop?
bm If so, where can I expect to taxi and get fuel? If I have to
bm taxi all around the huge and complex airport, I'll just land
bm somewhere else and get fuel, rather than risk getting lost and
bm then ran over by a 747.

bm What about any other bay area airports that are GA friendly
bm during the night?

I've never landed at SFO but have at all the other GA airports, though
not at night for a long time. I pretty sure you can land at SFO
easily at night because there are no scheduled airlines between about
1 am and...about 5 or 6 am I'll guess. Others have posted in the past
about doing a touch-and-go or similar just to say they did it.

But it sounds like you want to arrive at night, get fuel, and depart?
If so, pick another airport. Any other Bay Area airport will do, I'm
sure they have self-serve fuel at many.
--
To me, it's always a good idea to always carry two sacks of
something when you walk around. That way, if anybody says, "Hey,
can you give me a hand?," you can say, "Sorry, got these sacks."
- Jack Handey

buttman wrote:
I'm thinking of doing a night flight to SFO in a C152. Is this going
to be difficult? Will they let me in? Is that place very busy at
night? I plan on arriving at about midnight. Would a touch and go be
possible, or will they make me do a full stop? If so, where can I
expect to taxi and get fuel? If I have to taxi all around the huge and
complex airport, I'll just land somewhere else and get fuel, rather
than risk getting lost and then ran over by a 747.

What about any other bay area airports that are GA friendly during the
night?


You're an instructor?

If so, do you introduce your students to the AF/D, airport diagrams,
progressive taxi instructions, and so on?

In article om,
buttman wrote:

I'm thinking of doing a night flight to SFO in a C152. Is this going
to be difficult? Will they let me in? Is that place very busy at
night? I plan on arriving at about midnight. Would a touch and go be
possible, or will they make me do a full stop? If so, where can I
expect to taxi and get fuel? If I have to taxi all around the huge and
complex airport, I'll just land somewhere else and get fuel, rather
than risk getting lost and then ran over by a 747.

It's very unlikely that a 152 would get run over by a 747 at SFO. They
really try hard to prevent FOD incidents like that. Too much paperwork to
fill out afterwards.

I used to fly into OAK every night for a living, landing in the wee small
hours. Much easier to get around than is SFO.

Bob Gardner

"buttman" wrote in message
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I'm thinking of doing a night flight to SFO in a C152. Is this going
to be difficult? Will they let me in? Is that place very busy at
night? I plan on arriving at about midnight. Would a touch and go be
possible, or will they make me do a full stop? If so, where can I
expect to taxi and get fuel? If I have to taxi all around the huge and
complex airport, I'll just land somewhere else and get fuel, rather
than risk getting lost and then ran over by a 747.

What about any other bay area airports that are GA friendly during the
night?