Pilots flying into Oregon must register with the state!?

On Mon, 11 Jun 2007 15:41:35 -0000, xyzzy wrote
in . com:


The solution to the Maine problem appears to be to fly VFR only
through there. They are using IFR flight plans to find you.

The solution to these unconstitutional "laws" is to actively oppose
them, and get them overturned.

Larry Dighera writes:

The solution to these unconstitutional "laws" is to actively oppose
them, and get them overturned.

Agreed, but unfortunately justice costs money in the U.S. (and just about
everywhere else), so if you are not rich, how do you actively oppose
unconstitutional laws and win?

Mxsmanic wrote:

Larry Dighera writes:


The solution to these unconstitutional "laws" is to actively oppose
them, and get them overturned.


Agreed, but unfortunately justice costs money in the U.S. (and just about
everywhere else), so if you are not rich, how do you actively oppose
unconstitutional laws and win?

Ahem.

France.

I don't see it as terribly unfair to charge $8 per year, even from
transient pilots, to fund rescue services in case of a mishap. It
seems to be a reasonable cause. I always wondered where the money for
search and rescue came from.

Andrew Sarangan wrote:
I don't see it as terribly unfair to charge $8 per year, even from
transient pilots, to fund rescue services in case of a mishap. It
seems to be a reasonable cause. I always wondered where the money for
search and rescue came from.

I guess you don't understand the problem - there are 50 states, an even
larger number of counties, cities, and so on. How do you know where to look
to find out which entity wants to put their hands in your pocket each time
you land at an airport in their jurisdiction? I simply had no idea this law
existed until I went searching for information on registration of aircraft
in Oregon.

And you do realize that the law, as written, seems to require transients to
continue to renew with the state of Oregon so long as they are active as a
pilots? So even a single stop or overflight would require said pilot to
send $8 per year almost indefinitely.

And oh yeah, you have to inform them of every address change. Imagine if
all 50 states had this law and a pilot's flying happened to take her to all
50 states:

50 states times $8/year yields $400/year.

On Mon, 11 Jun 2007 00:01:29 -0000, Jim Logajan
wrote in :


And oh yeah, you have to inform them of every address change.

Not only that, the pilot's address is a matter of public record. It
was only a few years ago that we got the FAA to remove the addresses
of those airmen who requested it from public record.

Imagine if all 50 states had this law and a pilot's flying happened
to take her to all 50 states:

Aside from fifty letters of registration, she would have to pay
$400.00 annually.

On Mon, 11 Jun 2007 09:39:18 GMT, Larry Dighera
wrote:

On Mon, 11 Jun 2007 00:01:29 -0000, Jim Logajan
wrote in :


And oh yeah, you have to inform them of every address change.

Not only that, the pilot's address is a matter of public record. It
was only a few years ago that we got the FAA to remove the addresses
of those airmen who requested it from public record.

Imagine if all 50 states had this law and a pilot's flying happened
to take her to all 50 states:

Aside from fifty letters of registration, she would have to pay
$400.00 annually.

in australia the proportion of pilots to the general public is 1:768
usa has 350,000,000 people.
say 455,700 pilots.

imagine the processing nightmare if 400,000 pilots registered all with
a dud cheque.
you couldnt assume that they were all dud so the processing would be
enormous :-)

beware of what you wish for in case you get it in spades paraphrases
an old chinese proverb that I'm partial to.

Stealth Pilot

"Jim Logajan" wrote in message
.. .
How do you know where to look
to find out which entity wants to put their hands in your pocket each time
you land at an airport in their jurisdiction?

Kinda reminds me of the Part 121 additions (scenic flights, etc)

I'm not afraid that I'll get caught doing something wrong, I'm afraid I'll
do something without knowing it's wrong and get cited on some convoluted
bureaucratic technicality.


-c

On Jun 11, 11:38 am, Andrew Sarangan wrote:
I don't see it as terribly unfair to charge $8 per year, even from
transient pilots, to fund rescue services in case of a mishap. It
seems to be a reasonable cause. I always wondered where the money for
search and rescue came from.

I think you are deluded if you think an $8 charge will do anything
ecept pay for the salary of more bureacrats to administer the
register. Get a grip, your liberties are being eroded under the
pretext of security.

Good luck!

I don't see it as terribly unfair to charge $8 per year, even from
transient pilots, to fund rescue services in case of a mishap.

No, and it's not terribly unfair for cities, towns and other
municipalities to do the same for aircraft flying over them. Gated
communities that decide to have a registration program are also being
fair to pilots, after all, what's another eight dollars a year and some
paperwork? And the fines if you fail to comply?

I predict the law won't stand. Federal law trumps it, and has in the past.

Jose
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