Air Force Uniform Envy

"Michael Williamson" wrote in
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Could not resist :-) (when I see statements like) :-

" Recalling the "tiger-stripe" camouflage pattern used during the Vietnam
War, but with the distinctive Air Force logo embedded into a color scheme
that preliminary testing indicates may provide better camouflage."

Is the AF going to serve in some blue jungle somewhere?

Sunny wrote:
"Michael Williamson" wrote in
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Could not resist :-) (when I see statements like) :-

" Recalling the "tiger-stripe" camouflage pattern used during the Vietnam
War, but with the distinctive Air Force logo embedded into a color scheme
that preliminary testing indicates may provide better camouflage."

Is the AF going to serve in some blue jungle somewhere?


at the Pristina airport, back in 2001, I noticed the cute blue-pattern,
tiger-like camouflage used by Indian soldiers (similar to the new USAF
one, I suppose).

I wondered about the purpose of this strange BDU, and my answer was: to
blend in the urban environment (I thought grey-pattern would have been
better though).

Could this explanation apply to airmen as well ?

Regards,

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Luca Morandini
GIS Consultant

http://space.virgilio.it/kumora/index.html
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"Pete" wrote in message

"Thomas Schoene" wrote

They even have the of-so-modern Air Force logo
embedded in the pattern, just like the EGA in the marine utilities.

That is just a standard name tape. Over the other pocket is the last
name. Been that way forever.

No, take a look at this picture.

http://www.af.mil/search/media.asp?m...89&mediaType=1

There's a tiny little logo, maybe a half inch across, worked into the actual
camo pattern. The Marines did the same thing with their new uniform, hiding
the Eagle, Globe, and Anchor in the spots of the pattern. It's there mainly
to ensure that no other services can use the same uniforms.

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"If brave men and women never died, there would be nothing
special about bravery." -- Andy Rooney (attributed)

"Thomas Schoene" wrote in message
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The Air Force just can't stop monkeying with its uniforms, can it. Last
time, they wanted to look more like the Navy (or maybe the airlines).

This time, it looks like the Air Force has a severe case of uniform envy
over the Marine Corps' new utilities. So they've gone and gotten their
own
custom cammies, too. They even have the of-so-modern Air Force logo
embedded in the pattern, just like the EGA in the marine utilities.
Except
the Air Force cammies come in fashionable blue, green, and grey, just the
thing for blending in with the wild blue yonder (or maybe with the
concrete
on the flight line).

http://www.af.mil/stories/story.asp?storyID=123005370

I like the comment about needing "a uniform that fulfills our unique air
and
space missions". What, does it double as a space suit or something?

For a real sign as to how much this is driven by the Marines, look at the
soft cap that staff sergeant is wearing about half way down the page.
Does
that shape look a bit familiar?

http://www.af.mil/search/media_all.a...ryID=123005370

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Tom Schoene Replace "invalid" with "net" to e-mail
"If brave men and women never died, there would be nothing
special about bravery." -- Andy Rooney (attributed)

When did they stop urine testing? ;-)

"EndX" wrote in message
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That is one nasty looking uniform! looks like something out of GI Joe, and
her beret looks silly, but that's besides the point. What's then gen on
laundering the uniforms? Did they have to be professionally washed
previously? Why? What's wrong with chucking BDUs in the washing machine
and
using spray starch if need be?

BDUs aren't "supposed" to be sent to the cleaners. They were designed to be
washed, dried, and then worn. The problem is that the Air Force doesn't
have a clue and thinks BDUs are supposed to have creases.

Michael Williamson wrote:



davidG35 wrote:

One of the things I think is funny is that in the 80's the AF went to
BDU's
to save $ since they didn't want to pay the price for the old green
fatigues, now with our significantly smaller AF I can well imagine the
cost
for the uniforms, just feel sorry as hell for the AF guys attached to
army
units since that uniform will be sniper bait extraordinaire.



According to the article I read today, the Air Force expects the
uniforms to save money, at least for the troops using it. The new
material is (supposedly, anyway) more durable than the material used
in the current BDU and doesn't require starching or special laundering/
ironing. I thought that this was sort of ironic myself, as the BDU
label says that it shouldn't be starched (or ironed, IIRC, but I don't
have any handy to check). They also said that there were some
suggestions that the camouflage MIGHT actually be more effective than
the BDU pattern, but didn't specify the conditions under which that
might be true.

Mike


Falling out of a blue sky with white streaky clouds?

If they had made them white they would have looked more like Nixon's
"Palace Guards."

George

Thomas Schoene wrote:

"Pete" wrote in message


"Thomas Schoene" wrote


They even have the of-so-modern Air Force logo
embedded in the pattern, just like the EGA in the marine utilities.

That is just a standard name tape. Over the other pocket is the last
name. Been that way forever.


No, take a look at this picture.

http://www.af.mil/search/media.asp?m...89&mediaType=1

There's a tiny little logo, maybe a half inch across, worked into the actual
camo pattern. The Marines did the same thing with their new uniform, hiding
the Eagle, Globe, and Anchor in the spots of the pattern. It's there mainly
to ensure that no other services can use the same uniforms.

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Tom Schoene Replace "invalid" with "net" to e-mail
"If brave men and women never died, there would be nothing
special about bravery." -- Andy Rooney (attributed)


Damn, I was expecting the Gucchi logo, how trite.

George, enjoying this thread

Hi

I remember seeing Lebanese militia members wearing gaudy looking
three-tone blue BDU's. They stood out like a sore thumb.

Cheers...Chris

BDUs aren't "supposed" to be sent to the cleaners. They were designed to be
washed, dried, and then worn. The problem is that the Air Force doesn't
have a clue and thinks BDUs are supposed to have creases.

I was in spec ops and was in one of the first units in theAir Force to get
BDUs. We were told not to starch and press BDUs because it killed the Nomexâ„¢
and to not have the pockets sewn shut. Doing such would make the uniform
"unservicable."

Then again, in the 1970s permanant press fatigues were prohibited on the
flightline because they were static electricity risks. A few years later the
cotton fatigues were gone and all you could wear were permanent press.

I guess logic loses out to fashion every time. How long before the new uniform
has to be tailor fitted?

Dan, U. S. Air Force, retired

"Thomas Schoene" wrote in message nk.net...
The Air Force just can't stop monkeying with its uniforms, can it. Last
time, they wanted to look more like the Navy (or maybe the airlines).

This time, it looks like the Air Force has a severe case of uniform envy
over the Marine Corps' new utilities. So they've gone and gotten their own
custom cammies, too. They even have the of-so-modern Air Force logo
embedded in the pattern,

Someone other than me hates that new logo? The AF needs to go back
the old one from the 50s!

just like the EGA in the marine utilities. Except
the Air Force cammies come in fashionable blue, green, and grey, just
the
thing for blending in with the wild blue yonder (or maybe with the
concrete
on the flight line).

That is without a doubt the dumbest, most ugly uni I've ever seen.

~Michael