Fate of the F-14s

Danny Deger wrote:
"Blueskies" wrote in message
t...
Chop shop...

http://tinyurl.com/37sf4h

http://video.ap.org/v/Legacy.aspx?f=...&partner=en-ap



Does anyone know how much the scrap metal from on is worth?

It depends on condition, quatity, alloy, etc, and varies day to day,
but a rough rule of thumb would be on the order of $0.25/lb for
aluminum and $0.10/lb for steel.

An F-14 weighs about 40,000 lb and assuming a 50-50 mix of steel
and aluminum by weight gives about $7,000 minus the labor to get
it to scrap.

--
Jim Pennino

Remove .spam.sux to reply.

Blueskies wrote:
The real issue is that if these planes are so dangerous then why did we stop
using them? Or, conversly, why are we scared of them? Are a few
operational planes that big of a threat?

Apparently Iran still has quite a few operational F-14s with all the goodies.

It is unlikely that any of Iran's F-14s remained operational for more than
a few months (if at all) after the Grumman crews bugged out. There's no
record of any of them having flown since the Shah abdicated in 1979. I saw
an interview with one of the Grumman engineers that had been in Iran. He
said that there were only a few operational before they left, there were no
Iranian personal trained to maintain them, and they made a few
"modifications" before leaving to prevent them from being put into service.

Without the parts, specialized maintenance equipment and trained personnel,
it's doubtful that any of them flew. Their complete absence during the
Iran/Iraq war would tend to support that theory.

John Galban=====N4BQ (PA28-180)

--
Message posted via AviationKB.com
http://www.aviationkb.com/Uwe/Forums...ation/200707/1

Blueskies wrote:
The real issue is that if these planes are so dangerous then why did we stop
using them? Or, conversly, why are we scared of them? Are a few
operational planes that big of a threat?

Apparently Iran still has quite a few operational F-14s with all the goodies.

It is unlikely that any of Iran's F-14s remain operational with any of the
real goodies (i.e. the Phoenix system). Most of the original fleet was
cannabalized for parts during the Iran/Iraq war. With the absence of
technical support, it is thought that the (very) few that have been spotted
over the last 20 yrs. may have been refitted with Soviet engines and weapons
systems in the late 80s/ early 90s.

The Iranian aircraft industry is probably capable enough to keep reengined
airframes flying indefinitely, armed with simple Sparrow and Sidewinder
missiles. But, it's unlikely that any of the Phoenix missile technology has
been operational since the Iran/Iraq war.

John Galban=====N4BQ (PA28-180)

--
Message posted via http://www.aviationkb.com

JGalban wrote:
The real issue is that if these planes are so dangerous then why did we stop
using them? Or, conversly, why are we scared of them? Are a few
operational planes that big of a threat?

Apparently Iran still has quite a few operational F-14s with all the goodies.

It is unlikely that any of Iran's F-14s remained operational for more than
a few months (if at all) after the Grumman crews bugged out.

Forget that one. Bad info. Just got an email from a Navy pal, see my
other post.

--
Message posted via AviationKB.com
http://www.aviationkb.com/Uwe/Forums...ation/200707/1

JGalban via AviationKB.com wrote:
Blueskies wrote:
The real issue is that if these planes are so dangerous then why
did we stop using them? Or, conversly, why are we scared of them?
Are a few operational planes that big of a threat?

Apparently Iran still has quite a few operational F-14s with all the
goodies.

It is unlikely that any of Iran's F-14s remained operational for
more than a few months (if at all) after the Grumman crews bugged
out. There's no record of any of them having flown since the Shah
abdicated in 1979. I saw an interview with one of the Grumman
engineers that had been in Iran. He said that there were only a few
operational before they left, there were no Iranian personal trained
to maintain them, and they made a few "modifications" before leaving
to prevent them from being put into service.

Without the parts, specialized maintenance equipment and trained
personnel, it's doubtful that any of them flew. Their complete
absence during the Iran/Iraq war would tend to support that theory.

John Galban=====N4BQ (PA28-180)

According to this site, "An Iranian Tomcat scored a kill against an Iraqi
Mirage F1 as late as the spring of 1988."

http://www.iiaf.net/aircraft/jetfighters/F14/f14.html