Can the airport ban bicycles?

The "owners" are "We the People" --
Hehe! Good one! but that would require electing officials that still
agree with the We the People concept rather than the You are the People, WE
are Gods concept of government.

Jim

In article .com,
Jay Honeck wrote:

Our new hangar lease includes a specific ban on bicycles, of all
things. (And cars, and anything else in the hangars not directly
related to aviation.)

Ma$$port at KBED has the same thing. Practically speaking, bikes
and cars can be left in the hangar while the airplane is out, but the
idea is to use the hangar for airplanes.

I would think your various airport cars would be just fine. That
mustang IS an airport car, right? It just doesn't get as much use
as the van, right?

And the refrig is to store essential liquids for your mechanics, right?

--
Bob Noel
(goodness, please trim replies!!!)

"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
ups.com...

In my opinion, this is a gross mis-reading of the FARs, which were put
in place to make sure that airport hangars were not used as cheap
storage units for boats and other non-aircraft.


What FARs cover hangar leases?

What FARs cover hangar leases?

Yeah.
I was wondering that misself.

Maybe part "86"

Hmmm , it reads:"..any item not directly related to operating a hangared
aircraft must be "86'd", kaput, nada, outta dere.."

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Jay Honeck wrote:
I wouldn't be surprised if it's not a CYA move on the owner's part to
restrict any other "vehicles" being "parked" there and the hangar
becoming a "garage" for insurance purposes.


The "owners" are "We the People" -- it's a municipal airport hangar.

I believe the original intent of the clause(s) was to prevent the use
of hangars as non-aircraft storage units. The current commission,
however, is taking a very rigid reading of the lease, and has
announced a ban on ANYTHING not directly related to aviation --
including bicycles, of all things.

Our airport support group, "Friends of Iowa City Airport", is
absolutely abuzz with comments and crossfire, from commissioners and
tenants. It's actually kind of fun, but the ramifications are too
serious to really enjoy it.

Honestly, just when you thought you had seen everything...
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"


I have been on the local airport board off and on for years. We
originally had situations where the cheap storage was occurring. We
started eviction notices, when he finally left. You must have an
airworthy aircraft or be progressively working on a plane. Other things
can be kept in the hangars as long as they comply with the fire marshall
such as oil, small amounts of solvents, but I would think a 55 gal drum
of mogas would be not be welcomed. I leave my car in the hangar when
going cross country. I have my fake Christmas tree there. But, I keep
mine rather clean.

--

Regards, Ross
C-172F 180HP
KSWI

On Aug 28, 1:43 pm, Jay Honeck wrote:
Our new hangar lease includes a specific ban on bicycles, of all
things. (And cars, and anything else in the hangars not directly
related to aviation.)

Is this legal?

hmmmmm, sounds like something an insurance policywriter woudl put in.
how much hangar rash gets caused by bikes?

Directly related to aviation? put wings on yer bike!

"Jay Honeck" wrote in message oups.com...
Our new hangar lease includes a specific ban on bicycles, of all
things. (And cars, and anything else in the hangars not directly
related to aviation.)

Is this legal?
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"


Depends on the lease - no CFR Chapter 14 anything about it...

What FARs cover hangar leases?

It's called "Grant Assurance 29". Here ya go:

http://www.faa.gov/airports_airtraff...assurances.pdf

Specifically Grant Assurance #29 says this:

29. Airport Layout Plan. a. It will keep up to date at all times an
airport layout plan of the airport showing (1) boundaries of the
airport and all proposed additions thereto, together with the
boundaries of all offsite areas owned or controlled by the sponsor for
airport purposes and proposed additions thereto; (2) the location and
nature of all existing and proposed airport facilities and structures
(such as runways, taxiways, aprons, terminal buildings, hangars and
roads), including all proposed extensions and reductions of existing
airport facilities; and (3) the location of all existing and proposed
nonaviation areas and of all existing improvements thereon. Such
airport layout plans and each amendment, revision, or modification
thereof, shall be subject to the approval of the Secretary which
approval shall be evidenced by the signature of a duly authorized
representative of the Secretary on the face of the airport layout
plan. The sponsor will not make or permit any changes or alterations
in the airport or any of its facilities which are not in conformity
with the airport layout plan as approved by the Secretary and which
might, in the opinion of the Secretary, adversely affect the safety,
utility or efficiency of the airport. b. If a change or alteration in
the airport or the facilities is made which the Secretary determines
adversely affects the safety, utility, or efficiency of any federally
owned, leased, or funded property on or off the airport and which is
not in conformity with the airport layout plan as approved by the
Secretary, the owner or operator will, if requested, by the Secretary
(1) eliminate such adverse effect in a manner approved by the
Secretary; or (2) bear all costs of relocating such property (or
replacement thereof) to a site acceptable to the Secretary and all
costs of restoring such property (or replacement thereof) to the level
of safety, utility, efficiency, and cost of operation existing before
the unapproved change in the airport or its facilities.

The airport commission is using this as justification for the ban,
since allowing the hangars to be used to "store" stuff would be a
"change or alteration in the facilities" and put our FAA grant money
at stake.

It's all BS, if you ask me. I think it's a gross mis-reading of the
rule.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

In rec.aviation.piloting, on Tue 28 Aug 2007 01:43:35p, Jay Honeck
wrote:

Our new hangar lease includes a specific ban on bicycles, of all
things. (And cars, and anything else in the hangars not directly
related to aviation.)

Is this legal?

Hook up a tow hook to the bicycle and claim that it is a tug for moving
your aircraft. Most of the hangars that I've rented over the years don't
care what you put in them as long as you can still fit a plane in there.
At one time, I used a hangar for storage of my household items while moving
between houses (hadn't closed on the new house yet) and my plane was based
elsewhere. Some nosy asshole complained and I had to move everything to a
normal storage site.

In rec.aviation.piloting, on Tue 28 Aug 2007 03:17:42p, Jay Honeck
wrote:

In my opinion, this is a gross mis-reading of the FARs, which were put
in place to make sure that airport hangars were not used as cheap
storage units for boats and other non-aircraft.

I store my boat, utility trailer, ATV, and beer fridge in my hangar at my
current airport. The ATV acts as an aircraft tug, so technically it is
aviation related. The beer fridge is for after flight refreshments, so I
guess it is aviation related also. Give me a bit of time and I can
probably come up with an aviation related justification for the boat and
utility trailer also.