What is the Funnest 2-place airplane?

tater wrote:
"Carl Orton" wrote in message
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Sonex. $26,000, sonexaircraft.com amateur-built, 150MPH, LSA-qualified


Max airspeed for LSA is 138mph.



Yes, but that is TAS not MAS

Charles

Charles Vincent wrote:
tater wrote:

"Carl Orton" wrote in message
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Sonex. $26,000, sonexaircraft.com amateur-built, 150MPH, LSA-qualified


Max airspeed for LSA is 138mph.



Yes, but that is TAS not MAS

Charles

Yes but it is a Max 120 kts. right?

"Jerry Springer" wrote in message
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Yes but it is a Max 120 kts. right?

Nope. Max 120 knots continuous cruising speed.

Rich S.

Jerry Springer wrote:
Charles Vincent wrote:
tater wrote:

"Carl Orton" wrote in message
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Sonex. $26,000, sonexaircraft.com amateur-built, 150MPH,
LSA-qualified


Max airspeed for LSA is 138mph.



Yes, but that is TAS not MAS

Charles

Yes but it is a Max 120 kts. right?

Sorry, should have added a smiley.

TAS=True Airspeed
MAS=Marketing Airspeed

Charles

"tater" wrote in message
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"Carl Orton" wrote in message
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Sonex. $26,000, sonexaircraft.com amateur-built, 150MPH, LSA-qualified


Max airspeed for LSA is 138mph.


With a climb prop, it would be easy to keep one of the 4 cylinder Sonexes
under that speed. The question is whether the Sonex has enough interior room
for two people and how many people would be comfortable with the climb
performance of a Sonex with two aboard.

I know three Sonex owners or ex-owners. The guy with the 6 cylinder engine
has a good flying airplane, but it doesn't meet the performance claims. The
guys with 4 cylinder engines won't come out and say they are disappointed
with the performance, but their body language, tone, etc tells the tale.

KB

"Kyle Boatright" wrote:

I know three Sonex owners or ex-owners. The guy with the 6 cylinder
engine has a good flying airplane, but it doesn't meet the performance
claims. The guys with 4 cylinder engines won't come out and say they
are disappointed with the performance, but their body language, tone,
etc tells the tale.

Sat it one at Oshgosh, wasn't impressed, neither with the Zodiac 601
series... And thats just from sitting in it with another adult and not
trying to operate the controls inflight...

Darrel Toepfer wrote:
"Kyle Boatright" wrote:

I know three Sonex owners or ex-owners. The guy with the 6 cylinder
engine has a good flying airplane, but it doesn't meet the
performance claims. The guys with 4 cylinder engines won't come out
and say they are disappointed with the performance, but their body
language, tone, etc tells the tale.

Sat it one at Oshgosh, wasn't impressed, neither with the Zodiac 601
series... And thats just from sitting in it with another adult and not
trying to operate the controls inflight...

Loose some weight Darrel. The 601XL cockpit is wider than a 172 at 44
inches. It is a little tighter because of the center console but after you
get used to it it is much more comforable than a 172.

("tater" wrote)
Max airspeed for LSA is 138mph.


At sea level

At "maximum continuous power" V(H)

http://www.sportpilot.org/questions/....asp?faqid=223


Paul-Mont

Exactly! Sonex claims that all of their designs meet the 120 kt / 138 mph
limit, but all (are supposed to) do 150 or better at 8,000 feet TAS.

I don't have one, so I'm not an expert; only relating what the Sonex forums
say. Yup, there are those who's performance is less. Some are able to bring
it up to spec via tweaking or re-attention to details. Others perform very
well right out of the box.

I, too, sat in the "demo" cockpit at AirVenture, and also sat in a few
customer-built versions at the Sonex open house the Sunday before. Yup.
Tight. But, the original poster was looking for a fun a/c that would either
be flown by himself or with a small child. Most of (98%) of my flying is
single-pilot. Funnest or best-all-around-compromise? It's in the eye of
the beholder.

Still trying to decide between a Sonex, Rans S-19, or a Vans RV-9. All very
different. One is $12K-$20K less. Do I really want to spend that extra?
Still deciding. For my first plane, I looked at C-150's. Ended up with a
172. Now I'm older and wiser, and REALLY trying to define the REAL mission I
want.

"Montblack" wrote in message
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("tater" wrote)
Max airspeed for LSA is 138mph.


At sea level

At "maximum continuous power" V(H)

http://www.sportpilot.org/questions/....asp?faqid=223


Paul-Mont

"Carl Orton" wrote in message
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Still trying to decide between a Sonex, Rans S-19, or a Vans RV-9. All
very different. One is $12K-$20K less. Do I really want to spend that
extra? Still deciding. For my first plane, I looked at C-150's. Ended up
with a 172. Now I'm older and wiser, and REALLY trying to define the REAL
mission I want.

Why restrict yourself to one particular design, or aircraft? Unless you are
70+ years old, I would suggest that you buy a used Ercoupe. Fly it for a
year or two, pass it off to another pilot and use the money you have made
(investment) to select another on your list.

This is much like those fellows who are agonizing over the choice between a
certified aircraft engine to mount in their experimental airframe, or to try
an auto conversion. I always recommend they use and aircraft engine to prove
the airframe and than later, sell it and mount the conversion.

We are only caretakers of the machinery we buy. Most times we can get our
money back out when we sell. Buy it, use it, take care of it and pass it
along. We are not restricted to only one choice. Unlike choosing a wife!
))

Rich