Dutch Spitfire landed hard

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Martin wrote:

On Mon, 10 Sep 2007 21:34:22 +0200, "Ron" wrote:


"rich359" wrote in message
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Taken at the RNLAF Open Days at Volkel earlier this summer, together with
DC-2 PH-AJU "Uiver":

Ron

That looks like a DC3 to me... Anyone get a better picture of a DC2??

That is a DC-2 -- notice the partial slab-side -- that is the first
giveaway.

"Ron" wrote (in part):

Taken at the RNLAF Open Days at Volkel earlier this summer, together with
DC-2 PH-AJU "Uiver":

I think you'll find that the Uiver is still at Albury in Australia,
awaiting restoration. See this URL:
http://www.alburycity.nsw.gov.au/help/uiver.htm

Mike

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Mike Mackenzie wrote:

"Ron" wrote (in part):

Taken at the RNLAF Open Days at Volkel earlier this summer, together with
DC-2 PH-AJU "Uiver":
Which is not it's actual registration.
I think you'll find that the Uiver is still at Albury in Australia,
awaiting restoration. See this URL:
http://www.alburycity.nsw.gov.au/help/uiver.htm
Nor is this the aircraft you'd have us believe.

Both aircraft are dressed up as "Uiver", but neither of them are.
The real "Uiver" has long since left the skies, having crashed at Rutbah
Wells, Iraq in 1934.

Memory is a bit foggy here - but I have a recollection of a DC-3 being
dressed up as "Uiver" pre/early 1984, and flown to Australia in some sort of
commerative flight. (London to Melbourne Air Race?)
If this is the case I have a nice picture of the aircraft touching down at
Charleville that may be worth posting here.
It may have been to celebrate this event (hope the link works):-

http://nla.gov.au/nla.cs-pa-HTTP%253...M_RESULT%253D0

The commerative flight being to celebrate the 50th Anniversary of the above
event.
If you search www.pictureaustralia.org and use uiver as your search key it
will bring up a number of pictures.


The aircraft at Albury is certainly a replica of the original
http://www.uiver.org/Default.aspx?MenuK=9

Graham


"Scenic" wrote in message
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Mike Mackenzie wrote:

"Ron" wrote (in part):

Taken at the RNLAF Open Days at Volkel earlier this summer, together with
DC-2 PH-AJU "Uiver":
Which is not it's actual registration.
I think you'll find that the Uiver is still at Albury in Australia,
awaiting restoration. See this URL:
http://www.alburycity.nsw.gov.au/help/uiver.htm
Nor is this the aircraft you'd have us believe.

Both aircraft are dressed up as "Uiver", but neither of them are.
The real "Uiver" has long since left the skies, having crashed at Rutbah
Wells, Iraq in 1934.

"TacAN" wrote in message
...


http://www.airliners.net/search/phot...keywords=uiver

"TacAN" wrote in message
...
Memory is a bit foggy here - but I have a recollection of a DC-3 being
dressed up as "Uiver" pre/early 1984, and flown to Australia in some sort
of commerative flight. (London to Melbourne Air Race?)
If this is the case I have a nice picture of the aircraft touching down at
Charleville that may be worth posting here.
It may have been to celebrate this event (hope the link works):-


You are correct, it WAS a commemorative flight, using the actual DC-2 in my
photo. At the time the aircraft was owned by Mr. Colgate Darden, who loaned
it to KLM (the original owner of PH-AJU "Uiver") provided KLM would take
care of it's restauration. The DC-2 became available for sale, and the
Aviodrome museum at Lelystad Airport (EHLE) managed to buy it. She was flown
to the Netherlands, overhauled, and is available for airshows and flights
around The Netherlands. The Volkel Open Days were one of the first she was
shown again, following extensive overhaul (that's how she ended up with her
current glossy metallic finish) and repairs, as PH-AJU got damaged in a
landing accident at De Kooij Naval Air Station (EHKD) a few years ago.

http://nla.gov.au/nla.cs-pa-HTTP%253...M_RESULT%253D0

The commerative flight being to celebrate the 50th Anniversary of the
above event.
If you search www.pictureaustralia.org and use uiver as your search key it
will bring up a number of pictures.

And if you compare those pics with mine, you'd notice more than a few
similarities. ;-)

The aircraft at Albury is certainly a replica of the original
http://www.uiver.org/Default.aspx?MenuK=9


Both are original DC-2s, painted up as PH-AJU. The one in Albury was in dire
need of a restauration (to display condition), last time I read about her.
The one in Holland is airworthy, and possibly the sole airworthy example in
the world. The PH-AJU registration is fake, it is actually registered
NC39165 (cn 1404). Another DC-2 (fuselage+wings+engines, ex-VH-CRH, ex RAAF
A30-14) is in storage pending restauration at the Aviodrome, BTW.

Ron
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"Ron" wrote in message
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"TacAN" wrote in message
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Memory is a bit foggy here - but I have a recollection of a DC-3 being
And if you compare those pics with mine, you'd notice more than a few
similarities. ;-)


I thought the similarity was a bit more than coincidence. ;-)
Graham

Thanks, guys,

I always thought the DC-2 at Albury was the real Uiver ;-(

Mike

"Ron" and others wrote:


"TacAN" wrote in message
...
Memory is a bit foggy here - but I have a recollection of a DC-3 being
dressed up as "Uiver" pre/early 1984, and flown to Australia in some sort
of commerative flight. (London to Melbourne Air Race?)
If this is the case I have a nice picture of the aircraft touching down at
Charleville that may be worth posting here.
It may have been to celebrate this event (hope the link works):-


You are correct, it WAS a commemorative flight, using the actual DC-2 in my
photo. At the time the aircraft was owned by Mr. Colgate Darden, who loaned
it to KLM (the original owner of PH-AJU "Uiver") provided KLM would take
care of it's restauration. The DC-2 became available for sale, and the
Aviodrome museum at Lelystad Airport (EHLE) managed to buy it. She was flown
to the Netherlands, overhauled, and is available for airshows and flights
around The Netherlands. The Volkel Open Days were one of the first she was
shown again, following extensive overhaul (that's how she ended up with her
current glossy metallic finish) and repairs, as PH-AJU got damaged in a
landing accident at De Kooij Naval Air Station (EHKD) a few years ago.

http://nla.gov.au/nla.cs-pa-HTTP%253...M_RESULT%253D0

The commerative flight being to celebrate the 50th Anniversary of the
above event.
If you search www.pictureaustralia.org and use uiver as your search key it
will bring up a number of pictures.

And if you compare those pics with mine, you'd notice more than a few
similarities. ;-)

The aircraft at Albury is certainly a replica of the original
http://www.uiver.org/Default.aspx?MenuK=9


Both are original DC-2s, painted up as PH-AJU. The one in Albury was in dire
need of a restauration (to display condition), last time I read about her.
The one in Holland is airworthy, and possibly the sole airworthy example in
the world. The PH-AJU registration is fake, it is actually registered
NC39165 (cn 1404). Another DC-2 (fuselage+wings+engines, ex-VH-CRH, ex RAAF
A30-14) is in storage pending restauration at the Aviodrome, BTW.

Ron

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Mike Mackenzie (AVCOM Services)
Brisbane, AUSTRALIA
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No worries, Mike.
But what they have there is the next best thing. :-))

Graham

"Mike Mackenzie" wrote in message
...
Thanks, guys,

I always thought the DC-2 at Albury was the real Uiver ;-(

Mike

"Ron" and others wrote:


"TacAN" wrote in message
...
Memory is a bit foggy here - but I have a recollection of a DC-3 being
dressed up as "Uiver" pre/early 1984, and flown to Australia in some
sort
of commerative flight. (London to Melbourne Air Race?)
If this is the case I have a nice picture of the aircraft touching down
at
Charleville that may be worth posting here.
It may have been to celebrate this event (hope the link works):-


You are correct, it WAS a commemorative flight, using the actual DC-2 in
my
photo. At the time the aircraft was owned by Mr. Colgate Darden, who
loaned
it to KLM (the original owner of PH-AJU "Uiver") provided KLM would take
care of it's restauration. The DC-2 became available for sale, and the
Aviodrome museum at Lelystad Airport (EHLE) managed to buy it. She was
flown
to the Netherlands, overhauled, and is available for airshows and flights
around The Netherlands. The Volkel Open Days were one of the first she was
shown again, following extensive overhaul (that's how she ended up with
her
current glossy metallic finish) and repairs, as PH-AJU got damaged in a
landing accident at De Kooij Naval Air Station (EHKD) a few years ago.

http://nla.gov.au/nla.cs-pa-HTTP%253...M_RESULT%253D0

The commerative flight being to celebrate the 50th Anniversary of the
above event.
If you search www.pictureaustralia.org and use uiver as your search key
it
will bring up a number of pictures.

And if you compare those pics with mine, you'd notice more than a few
similarities. ;-)

The aircraft at Albury is certainly a replica of the original
http://www.uiver.org/Default.aspx?MenuK=9


Both are original DC-2s, painted up as PH-AJU. The one in Albury was in
dire
need of a restauration (to display condition), last time I read about her.
The one in Holland is airworthy, and possibly the sole airworthy example
in
the world. The PH-AJU registration is fake, it is actually registered
NC39165 (cn 1404). Another DC-2 (fuselage+wings+engines, ex-VH-CRH, ex
RAAF
A30-14) is in storage pending restauration at the Aviodrome, BTW.

Ron

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Brisbane, AUSTRALIA
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On that I tend to disagree. If I'm not incorrect the Dutch "fake" Uiver is
the only airworthy Uiver at this moment. So in my opinion it makes that one
the next best thing :-)

"TacAN" schreef in bericht
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No worries, Mike.
But what they have there is the next best thing. :-))

Graham

"Mike Mackenzie" wrote in message
...
Thanks, guys,

I always thought the DC-2 at Albury was the real Uiver ;-(

Mike