About French cowards.

ArtKramr wrote in message
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But never haven ever written hate books like far right hate monger
Coulter



You're right. The anti-American leftists usually fill their hate books
with "October Surprises", secret deals, and anti-Semitism.

--

Scott
--------
"Interestingly, we started to lose this war only after the embedded
reporters pulled out. Back when we got the news directly from Iraq,
there was victory and optimism. Now that the news is filtered through
the mainstream media here in America, all we hear is death and
destruction and quagmire..." Ann Coulter
http://www.anncoulter.com/columns/2003/091703.htm

in article , ArtKramr at
wrote on 2003/10/11 19:11:

Ann Coulter is getting rich writing books that divide America one group
against the other.

If Ann Coulter gets rich, wonderful! That's the American way -- and not just
for the wunderkind of silicon valley.

Ann Coulter's success stems from the fact that she is giving a voice to the
discontented mass who have found themselves already divided from the left
coast and it's sycophants elsewhere who are seeking to remake America in
their own deluded image.

It's about time!




Jack

Jack wrote:

in article , ArtKramr at
wrote on 2003/10/11 19:11:

Ann Coulter is getting rich writing books that divide America one group
against the other.

If Ann Coulter gets rich, wonderful! That's the American way -- and not just
for the wunderkind of silicon valley.

Ann Coulter's success stems from the fact that she is giving a voice to the
discontented mass who have found themselves already divided from the left
coast and it's sycophants elsewhere who are seeking to remake America in
their own deluded image.

It's about time!
This is way off topic for RAM, but whatever.
FWIW, I've met very few Republicans who don't wonder what
is wrong with Coulter in private moments. I'm including in this
group people who think that Bush is too conservative.
Look at the Drudge site, BTW, you can get her book for
free.
Why? Because Richard Mellon Scaife has bought hundreds
of thousands of the books, and is giving them away for free.
It's not her writing (pedestrian at best), or her
originality (1st book plagiarized from one of her former
colleagues, check the now pay per view Boston Globe archives or
google), it's because she seems Republican Hip (Anorexic and
Blond), and Scaife decided to do the equivalent of a rent a crowd
in order to buy credibility on the NY Times bestseller list.
She's the Republican "It Girl", though I'm inclined to
quote Austin Powers as regards her sex appeal.
--
Matthew Saroff

Does anyone else out there strongly feel that the folks at the TV
Networks who have censored out Daffy's beak getting blown off (Shoot
Me NOW!) deserve to be stripped naked, tied face down over a chair,
covered with moose musk, and set in the migratory path of a large
moose herd?
Comments to (remove the numbers to reply)
Check http://www.pobox.com/~msaroff, including The Bad Hair Web Page

Subject: About French cowards.
From: Matthew G. Saroff
Date: 10/20/03 8:06 PM Pacific Daylight Time
Message-id: nn79pvk14qgtm3fm55kvrqs

I'm including in this
group people who think that Bush is too conservative.

Most of my Republican friends think Bush is too liberal. Coulter has one
product for sale, hatred.

Arthur Kramer
344th BG 494th BS
England, France, Belgium, Holland, Germany
Visit my WW II B-26 website at:
http://www.coastcomp.com/artkramer

Subject: About French cowards.
From: "Michael Smith"
Date: 10/11/03 4:39 PM Pacific Daylight Time
Message-id:

France actually does help the US - the only non-US planes to drop bombs in
Afghanistan were French, and the US now uses a French base in Djibouti. The
difference between the french and the Brits is that France offers help on
its own terms, while the Brits are

I understand that the French tried that with the Germans in WW II and it
didn't quite work out all that well. At least the English never deserted to the
enemy and fought against us. Right?

Arthur Kramer
344th BG 494th BS
England, France, Belgium, Holland, Germany
Visit my WW II B-26 website at:
http://www.coastcomp.com/artkramer

The following advisory for American travelers heading for
France was compiled from information provided by the U.S.
State Department, the Central Intelligence Agency, the U.S.
Chamber of Commerce, the Food and Drug Administration,
the Center for Disease Control and some very expensive spy
satellites that the French don't know about. It is intended as
a guide for American travelers only and no guarantee of
accuracy is ensured or intended.

General Overview

France is a medium-sized foreign country situated on the
continent of Europe. It is an important member of the world
community, although not nearly as important as it thinks. It
is bounded by Germany, Spain, Switzerland and some
smaller nations of no particular consequence or shopping
opportunities.

France is a very old country with many treasures such as the
Louvre and EuroDisney. Among its contributions to Western
civilization are champagne, Camembert cheese and the
guillotine.

Although France likes to think of itself as a modern nation,
air conditioning is little used and it is next to impossible to
get decent Mexican food. One continuing exasperation for
American visitors is that the people willfully persist in
speaking French, although many will speak English if
shouted at repeatedly.

The People

France has a population of 54 million people, most of whom
drink and smoke a great deal, drive like lunatics, are
dangerously oversexed and have no concept of standing
patiently in a line. The French people are generally gloomy,
temperamental, proud, arrogant, aloof and undisciplined;
those are their good points. Most French citizens are
Roman Catholic, although you'd hardly guess it from their
behavior. Many people are Communists and topless
sunbathing is common. Men sometimes have girls' names
like Marie and they kiss each other when they hand out
medals. American travelers are advised to travel in groups
and to wear baseball caps and colorful pants for easier
mutual recognition.

Safety

In general, France is a safe destination, although travelers
are advised that France is occasionally invaded by Germany.
By tradition, the French surrender more or less at once and,
apart from a temporary shortage of Scotch whisky and
increased difficulty in getting baseball scores and stock
market prices, life for the visitors generally goes on much as
before. A tunnel connecting France to Britain beneath the
English Channel has been opened in recent years to make it
easier for the French government to flee to London.

History

France was discovered by Charlemagne in the Dark Ages.
Other important historical figures are Louis XIV, the
Huguenots, Joan of Arc, Jacques Cousteau and Charles de
Gaulle, who was President for many years and is now an
airport.

Government

The French form of government is democratic but noisy.
Elections are held more or less continuously and always
result in a run-off. For administrative purposes, the country is
divided into regions, departments, districts, municipalities,
cantons, communes, villages, cafes, booths and floor tiles.
Parliament consists of two chambers, the Upper and Lower
(although, confusingly, they are both on the ground floor),
whose members are either Gaullists or communists, neither
of whom can be trusted. Parliament's principal
preoccupations are setting off atomic bombs in the South
Pacific and acting indignant when anyone complains.
According to the most current State Department intelligence,
the current President is someone named Jacques. Further
information is not available at this time.

Culture

The French pride themselves on their culture, although it is
not easy to see why. All of their songs sound the same and
they have hardly ever made a movie that you want to watch
for anything except the nude scenes. Nothing, of course, is
more boring than a French novel (except perhaps an evening
with a French family.)

Cuisine

Let's face it, no matter how much garlic you put on it, a snail
is just a slug with a shell on its back. Croissants, on the
other hand, are excellent although it is impossible for most
Americans to pronounce this word. American travelers are
therefore advised to stick to cheeseburgers at McDonald's or
the restaurants at the leading hotels such as Sheraton or
Holiday Inn.

Economy

France has a large and diversified economy, second only to
Germany's economy in Europe, which is surprising since
people hardly ever work at all. If they are not spending four
hours dawdling over lunch, they are on strike and blocking
the roads with their trucks and tractors. France's principal
exports, in order of importance to the economy, are wine,
nuclear weapons, perfume, guided missiles, champagne,
high-caliber weaponry, grenade launchers, land mines, tanks,
attack aircraft, miscellaneous armaments and cheese.

Public Holidays

France has more holidays than any other nation in the world.
Among its 361 national holidays and: 197 saint's days, 37
National Liberation days, 16 Declaration of Republic days, 54
Return of Charles de Gaulle in Triumph as if He Won the War
Single-Handed days, 18 Napoleon Called Back from Exile
days and 112 France is Great and the Rest of the World Isn't
days. Other important holidays include National Nuclear
Bomb Day (January 12th), the Feast of St. Brigitte Bardot
Day (March 1st) and National Guillotine Day (November
12th.)

Conclusion

France enjoys a rich history, a picturesque and varied
landscape and a temperate climate. In short, it would be a
very nice country if French people didn't inhabit it. The best
thing that can be said for it is that it is not Germany.
Remember that no one ordered you to go abroad. Personally
we always take our vacation in Miami Beach and you are
advised to do the same. Thank you and good luck.

-Dave Barry

On Sun, 12 Oct 2003 00:28:49 GMT, Mike Marron
wrote:

The following advisory for American travelers heading for
France was compiled from information provided by the U.S.
State Department, the Central Intelligence Agency, the U.S.
Chamber of Commerce, the Food and Drug Administration,
the Center for Disease Control and some very expensive spy
satellites that the French don't know about. It is intended as
a guide for American travelers only and no guarantee of
accuracy is ensured or intended.

General Overview

France is a medium-sized foreign country situated on the
continent of Europe. It is an important member of the world
community, although not nearly as important as it thinks. It
is bounded by Germany, Spain, Switzerland and some
smaller nations of no particular consequence or shopping
opportunities.

France is a very old country with many treasures such as the
Louvre and EuroDisney. Among its contributions to Western
civilization are champagne, Camembert cheese and the
guillotine.

Although France likes to think of itself as a modern nation,
air conditioning is little used and it is next to impossible to
get decent Mexican food. One continuing exasperation for
American visitors is that the people willfully persist in
speaking French, although many will speak English if
shouted at repeatedly.

The People

France has a population of 54 million people, most of whom
drink and smoke a great deal, drive like lunatics, are
dangerously oversexed and have no concept of standing
patiently in a line. The French people are generally gloomy,
temperamental, proud, arrogant, aloof and undisciplined;
those are their good points. Most French citizens are
Roman Catholic, although you'd hardly guess it from their
behavior. Many people are Communists and topless
sunbathing is common. Men sometimes have girls' names
like Marie and they kiss each other when they hand out
medals. American travelers are advised to travel in groups
and to wear baseball caps and colorful pants for easier
mutual recognition.

Safety

In general, France is a safe destination, although travelers
are advised that France is occasionally invaded by Germany.
By tradition, the French surrender more or less at once and,
apart from a temporary shortage of Scotch whisky and
increased difficulty in getting baseball scores and stock
market prices, life for the visitors generally goes on much as
before. A tunnel connecting France to Britain beneath the
English Channel has been opened in recent years to make it
easier for the French government to flee to London.

History

France was discovered by Charlemagne in the Dark Ages.
Other important historical figures are Louis XIV, the
Huguenots, Joan of Arc, Jacques Cousteau and Charles de
Gaulle, who was President for many years and is now an
airport.

Government

The French form of government is democratic but noisy.
Elections are held more or less continuously and always
result in a run-off. For administrative purposes, the country is
divided into regions, departments, districts, municipalities,
cantons, communes, villages, cafes, booths and floor tiles.
Parliament consists of two chambers, the Upper and Lower
(although, confusingly, they are both on the ground floor),
whose members are either Gaullists or communists, neither
of whom can be trusted. Parliament's principal
preoccupations are setting off atomic bombs in the South
Pacific and acting indignant when anyone complains.
According to the most current State Department intelligence,
the current President is someone named Jacques. Further
information is not available at this time.

Culture

The French pride themselves on their culture, although it is
not easy to see why. All of their songs sound the same and
they have hardly ever made a movie that you want to watch
for anything except the nude scenes. Nothing, of course, is
more boring than a French novel (except perhaps an evening
with a French family.)

Cuisine

Let's face it, no matter how much garlic you put on it, a snail
is just a slug with a shell on its back. Croissants, on the
other hand, are excellent although it is impossible for most
Americans to pronounce this word. American travelers are
therefore advised to stick to cheeseburgers at McDonald's or
the restaurants at the leading hotels such as Sheraton or
Holiday Inn.

Economy

France has a large and diversified economy, second only to
Germany's economy in Europe, which is surprising since
people hardly ever work at all. If they are not spending four
hours dawdling over lunch, they are on strike and blocking
the roads with their trucks and tractors. France's principal
exports, in order of importance to the economy, are wine,
nuclear weapons, perfume, guided missiles, champagne,
high-caliber weaponry, grenade launchers, land mines, tanks,
attack aircraft, miscellaneous armaments and cheese.

Public Holidays

France has more holidays than any other nation in the world.
Among its 361 national holidays and: 197 saint's days, 37
National Liberation days, 16 Declaration of Republic days, 54
Return of Charles de Gaulle in Triumph as if He Won the War
Single-Handed days, 18 Napoleon Called Back from Exile
days and 112 France is Great and the Rest of the World Isn't
days. Other important holidays include National Nuclear
Bomb Day (January 12th), the Feast of St. Brigitte Bardot
Day (March 1st) and National Guillotine Day (November
12th.)

Conclusion

France enjoys a rich history, a picturesque and varied
landscape and a temperate climate. In short, it would be a
very nice country if French people didn't inhabit it. The best
thing that can be said for it is that it is not Germany.
Remember that no one ordered you to go abroad. Personally
we always take our vacation in Miami Beach and you are
advised to do the same. Thank you and good luck.

-Dave Barry

.....or perhaps some U.S. fighter pilot who was stationed in Laon,
France, back in the sixties when we were kicked out of the country,
lock stock and barrelby good ol' Charlie DeGaulle?

Hi Mike

The same thing happened to the Canadians.

In March 1966, the French government announced that is was withdrawing
its own forces from N.A.T.O. operational control and bringing them home.
They requested that all N.A.T.O. units either leave the country by the
1st of April 1967 or accept French operational control. Thus the Royal
Canadian Air Force were forced to move out of France. They had major
fighter wings at Grostenquin (nicknamed Gross Tin Can) and Marville.
They also had No. 61 A.C.&.W. Squadron (callsign 'Yellowjack') based at
Metz. The H.Q. for the R.C.A.F.'s No. 1 Air Division Europe was also in
Metz, France.

In 1962, there was a conflict of interest between France the the United
States over the storage of nukes on French soil. France wanted full
control of them. As a consequence, all nuclear weapons were withdrawn
from France including those destined for use by the R.C.A.F.'s CF-104
Starfighters which had replaced the Canadair Sabre Mk. 6.

Cheers...Chris

Michael Smith wrote in message
...
Damn good post.

France actually does help the US - the only non-US planes to drop
bombs in
Afghanistan were French, and the US now uses a French base in
Djibouti. The
difference between the french and the Brits is that France offers help
on
its own terms, while the Brits are basically subservient to the US and
will
do whatever it says.

Mike


Yeah, France's help in giving Saddam a nuclear reactor was very helpful.
At least they are friendly enough to sell inferior equipment to despots.
And the butchers of Rwanda really appreciated the French aid in escaping
Rwanda after the genocide. The Vichy French were just as French as the
resistance.


--

Scott
--------
"Interestingly, we started to lose this war only after the embedded
reporters pulled out. Back when we got the news directly from Iraq,
there was victory and optimism. Now that the news is filtered through
the mainstream media here in America, all we hear is death and
destruction and quagmire..." Ann Coulter
http://www.anncoulter.com/columns/2003/091703.htm

"tscottme" a écrit dans le message de
...
Michael Smith wrote in message
...
Damn good post.

France actually does help the US - the only non-US planes to drop
bombs in
Afghanistan were French, and the US now uses a French base in
Djibouti. The
difference between the french and the Brits is that France offers help
on
its own terms, while the Brits are basically subservient to the US and
will
do whatever it says.

Mike


Yeah, France's help in giving Saddam a nuclear reactor was very helpful.
At least they are friendly enough to sell inferior equipment to despots.
And the butchers of Rwanda really appreciated the French aid in escaping
Rwanda after the genocide. The Vichy French were just as French as the
resistance.

So funny !!!

Yeap France helped Saddam for iraqi nuclear program.. and the US for the
chemical !!!!
(What did mr Rumsfeld doing in Bagdad in 1988 shaking hand with Saddam & T.
Aziz ???!!)

Which country sent troops to stop genocide in Rwanda ??... US ??
not.France !! alone with some belgians SF.
Which country sent troops in Croatia / Bosnia for the UN in 1993 ?? ..
not the US !!! France !!!
Which country has no problem in Somalia with warlords.. during operation
Restore Hope France !!
Because French troops decided ASAP to disarm milicians in french sector
!!
US command didn't want to do the same fo the respect of local culture and
blah blah blah !!! ( we know the end of the story !!)
Which country is present with the UN in south Lebanon since 1978 and
was victim of many terrorists attacks from hezbollah ???
Not the US ... France ..
Which Country' special forces and intelligence officers were with
afghan commander Shah Massoud before 09/11 .. France !! .

Which country asked US help in 1939. ???.. and the help came
in???....... 1941 !!! after Pearl desaster ..!!!
And the US tried during all the war to remove De Gaulle and to negociate
with Vichy representant Darlan !!!

Some time you ought to listen your "friends advices". instead of thinking
your point of view is the only point of view of the "free world" !!!
More arrogant than the french !!!
The french army have a best background of military operations in middle
East and africa thant the US !!
And most of the time in counter-terrorism Special operations !!
(Teheran 1979 !! Mogadishio 1993 !! Vs Kolwezi 1979 french paratroopers
took the control of the city of Kolwezi (ZAIRE) saving thousands of civilian
hostages !! Marseille 1992 : special forces assault on a hijacked plane :
no casualties among the hostages 10 wounded in the GIGN team, all
terrorists killed).

France said to the US that' there is some diplomatic ways for the Iraq
crisis
(where are the WMD ??, where is Saddam ??? are you sure the US are in
Iraq ?? ;-))) .. and the "after war", will be not so easy than the
hawkish tried to sold it to the US public opinion....

So now US governement want France sending troops in Iraq ??. so funny !!!
or so tragic !!
because US are in a big **** !!!
Stay and you'll have more and more terrorists attacks against your forces
leave Iraq and you ( we)' ll have an islamic regime in Bagdad...

Thanks Mr Junior for Chaos in ME