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There are some airplanes that are easy to load outside the
flight envelope. Many multiengine airplanes are designed to carry passengers and baggage. With only the front seats occupied, some ballast in the rear can be essential. You should read some FAR 23 on flight control forces allowed. I have a few thousand hours teaching in multiengine aircraft and just flying charter and delivery, from Piper Aztecs, Beech Duchess and Barons, Dukes, King Ai r 90, 200 and 300. Jet time is in the Beechjet 400, trust me, your life can depend on your being able to push and pull the controls to the limit with one leg or one hand. "Michelle P" wrote in message ... | Jim Macklin wrote: | Be careful with using the electric trim to flare. Assuming | that the airplane is properly loaded with the CG within the | range, the elevator forces required between an approach | speed of 1.3 Vso and the flare should be slight. Do a W&B | for your landing configuration, be sure to check for an | items stowed in a forward baggage area and for fuel. | | The problem that WILL happen is at some point you will gave | to go-around, that means you will need a hand on the power | and you will REALLY need two hands on the elevator because | the electric trim isn't fast enough, you will have a sudden | need to hold the nose down, will loose A/S, perhaps even | stall, then the real bad thing can happen, en engine | failure, Vmc and spin at 100 AGL. | | Do some exercise with weights, it is safer. | | there are some planes that are just nose heavy. |
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Jim Macklin wrote:
There are some airplanes that are easy to load outside the flight envelope. Many multiengine airplanes are designed to carry passengers and baggage. With only the front seats occupied, some ballast in the rear can be essential. You should read some FAR 23 on flight control forces allowed. I have a few thousand hours teaching in multiengine aircraft and just flying charter and delivery, from Piper Aztecs, Beech Duchess and Barons, Dukes, King Ai r 90, 200 and 300. Jet time is in the Beechjet 400, trust me, your life can depend on your being able to push and pull the controls to the limit with one leg or one hand. I bow to your godliness..almighty one. Michelle |
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My Seneca is. So I don't use full flaps unless there is some aft weight.
Without anything in the back, the cg is almost at the front limit. Just "two notches". To flare nice with full flaps invites a tail stall. Very common and I was taught, that is why there is the abundance of nose gear collapses in the type. Because the pounding the nose gear is given. Rolling in nose up trim makes things easier. It is just done when over the numbers, entering a flare. John Michelle P wrote: Jim Macklin wrote: Be careful with using the electric trim to flare. Assuming that the airplane is properly loaded with the CG within the range, the elevator forces required between an approach speed of 1.3 Vso and the flare should be slight. Do a W&B for your landing configuration, be sure to check for an items stowed in a forward baggage area and for fuel. The problem that WILL happen is at some point you will gave to go-around, that means you will need a hand on the power and you will REALLY need two hands on the elevator because the electric trim isn't fast enough, you will have a sudden need to hold the nose down, will loose A/S, perhaps even stall, then the real bad thing can happen, en engine failure, Vmc and spin at 100 AGL. Do some exercise with weights, it is safer. there are some planes that are just nose heavy. |
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The Visitor wrote:
To flare nice with full flaps invites a tail stall. Not likely. You will lose elevator authority, but the AOA gets smaller as the tail moves down. why there is the abundance of nose gear collapses in the type. Actually, there is an AD out on the Seneca nose gear. The collapses are generally due to misrigging of the airplane. Friend of mine has a nosewheel collapse after a full stall, nose high landing. |
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