Which post-WW2 combat aircraft have not been used in combat?

Mike Marron wrote in message . ..
"Alex A" wrote:
Mike Marron wrote:

B-36, B-47, F-84F, F-89, F-106, F-101, F-86D, F-94C, Saab Draken, Saab

I have read that F106 was used in used in Vietnam for few monthes but not
with the
expected results (1 shot down)

I'm afraid you're confusing the F-106 with its delta-wing F-102
predecessor. A quick visual to differentiate between the two
is the clipped vertical fin on the Six and the air-intakes are also
behind the canopy (not to mention the Six blows the Duece away
in terms of takeoff/climbout performance when watching from the
ground). But the -102 was in 'Nam and the -106 wasn't.

29, F-4D Skyray, F7U Cutlass, F9F (swept-wing) Cougar, Gloster
Javelin, Avro Vulcan, Handley Page Victor, Supermarine Scimitar, Fiat
G.91, English Electric Lightning,

I think Vulcan was used for Malouines Airfield bombing... scimitar by indian
in Pakistan/India war (not sure, sea vixen?)

OK?

Vampire was used by India, as was Gnat. The war he was referring to
was probably the 65 conflict.


Dassault Mirage IV, Saab Viggen,
Sukhoi Su-15, Shin Meiwa, Alpha Jet, Folland Gnat,

Gnat was used by India in India vs Pakistan ?

?

See above. It killed F-86's during that conflict.


BAe Hawk, Fuji T1F2, Supermarine Swift, Tupolov Tu-22, Tupulov Tu-26,
B-58 Hustler,
Tupolov Tu-16, North American B-45, Hawker Firebrand, Tupolov Tu-20,
Hawker Siddeley Buccaneer, Hawker Sea Vixen, deHavilland Venom,
McDonnell F2H-4 Banshee, North American FJ-4B Fury, deHavilland
Vampire, Yakolev Yak-25A,

Dassault Ouragen, by IAF

OK.

McDonnell FH-1 Phantom, Hawker Sea Fury, Grumman F7F Tigercat, McDonnell
F3H Demon, Supermarine Attacker...

A+

Heh.

Don't get too smug; by my count, you are more in the "C" range--the
Tu-16 was used in combat (see Egyptian use), as was the Tigercat (in
Korea) Sea Fury, etc...

Brooks

"Alex A" wrote in message
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Mike Marron wrote:
HI

B-36, B-47, F-84F, F-89, F-106, F-101, F-86D, F-94C, Saab Draken, Saab

I have read that F106 was used in used in Vietnam for few monthes but not
with the
expected results (1 shot down)

You should avoid quoting Stickney, Alex.

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Sukhoi Su-15


1983, KAL 007 airliner

Tupolov Tu-22

Heh, a Libyan Backfire tried to attack a french airfield in Libya in 1986.
First attack put one bomb on the runway, second attack put 2 Crotale SAM
into the Backfire...

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"Pierre-Henri Baras" wrote:

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dans le message de news:
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Sukhoi Su-15


1983, KAL 007 airliner

Tupolov Tu-22

Heh, a Libyan Backfire tried to attack a french
airfield in Libya in 1986.
First attack put one bomb on the runway, second
attack put 2 Crotale SAM
into the Backfire...

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Aircraft was a Tu-22 Blinder, and it was killed by a pair of I-Hawks, as
even the French Defense Ministry admitted at the time. No survivors from
the aircraft.
Backfire has not been exported to anybody, for which many parties are grateful.
Only non-Russian operator is Ukrainian AF.

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"Pierre-Henri Baras" wrote in message
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"Alex A" a écrit dans le message de news:
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Sukhoi Su-15


1983, KAL 007 airliner

Tupolov Tu-22

Heh, a Libyan Backfire tried to attack a french airfield in Libya in 1986.
First attack put one bomb on the runway, second attack put 2 Crotale SAM
into the Backfire...

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You are thinking of the TU-22 BLINDER. The missiles used were French
operated I-HAWKs. A Blinder was also reported shot down by a Chad operated
SA-6 system captured from the Libyans. The Backfire has yet to be exported
(India pending lease).

TJ

On Sat, 18 Oct 2003 14:52:44 +0100, "TJ"
wrote:


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Sukhoi Su-15


1983, KAL 007 airliner

Tupolov Tu-22

Heh, a Libyan Backfire tried to attack a french airfield in Libya in 1986.
First attack put one bomb on the runway, second attack put 2 Crotale SAM
into the Backfire...

--

You are thinking of the TU-22 BLINDER. The missiles used were French
operated I-HAWKs. A Blinder was also reported shot down by a Chad operated
SA-6 system captured from the Libyans. The Backfire has yet to be exported
(India pending lease).
I confirm : shutdown by HAWK from 402° French Air-Defence Regiment

TJ

"Mike Marron" wrote in message
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(Kirk Stant) wrote:

Just for fun, off the top of your heads, which post-WW2 combat
aircraft (any country) have NOT been used in their intended roles in
an actual shooting war (or police action, or soccer riot, or whatever
it's called these days)?

And why?

Some ROE:

1. Combat aircraft means it was designed or modified to employ
air-to-air or air-to-ground/ship/boat weapons.

2. Combat means someone was activily shooting back (or really wanted
to) while the aircraft was performing it's mission.

3. Let's leave out recce, that just gets too complicated!

To start things off, here are my USAF candidates:

B-36 - Held back from Korea for Nuke mission.
B-47 - Too early for Korea, too late for Vietnam (remember, no recce).
F-84F - Too early for Korea (ef considered a separate aircraft from
straight-wing F-84s), too late for Vietnam. Combat use by other
countries?
F-89 - Too late for Korea (?), not needed (no bomber threat).
F-106 - Not needed in Vietnam - F-102s deployed instead.
F-101 (Yeah, I know about the RF-101 in Cuba and Vietnam). Don't know
why F-101Cs weren't used early in Vietnam. Being phased out by then?

Could be wrong, but here goes:

Gloster Javelin,

Javelins were in a semi-shootin' war with Indonesia I believe. As was the
Sea Vixen. Both were intecepting aircraft but not shooting them down
(although I believe the Javelins managed to get an Indonesian C130 to fly
into the ground)

Avro Vulcan,

Falkland Islands not ring a bell?

Handley Page Victor

Dropped bombs in Indonesia conflict (I think) again. If not there then Aden
or something like that...

Hawker Siddeley Buccaneer

Used against Angola by South Africa.

BAe Hawk

Used in its intended role by the Indonesians (alway with the Indonesians!)
against armed rebels.

deHavilland Venom,

Pretty sure that saw some service in the Far/Middle east.

Hawker Sea Fury

Shot down a couple of MiG 15s in Korea, heavily involved in that conflict.

"tw" wrote in message
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"Mike Marron" wrote in message
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(Kirk Stant) wrote:

Just for fun, off the top of your heads, which post-WW2 combat
aircraft (any country) have NOT been used in their intended roles in
an actual shooting war (or police action, or soccer riot, or whatever
it's called these days)?

Gloster Javelin,

Javelins were in a semi-shootin' war with Indonesia I believe.

One story has Javelins being called in for Close Air Support (Javelin was
purely an interceptor). They overflew the Indonesian / insurgent positions
and lit off the afterburners, which always started with a heck of a bang.
The noise itself was sufficient to send the enemy scuttling away.

As was the
Sea Vixen. Both were intecepting aircraft but not shooting them down
(although I believe the Javelins managed to get an Indonesian C130 to fly
into the ground)

Avro Vulcan,

Falkland Islands not ring a bell?

Handley Page Victor

Dropped bombs in Indonesia conflict (I think) again. If not there then
Aden
or something like that...

Hawker Siddeley Buccaneer

Used against Angola by South Africa.

Used by RAF as target designators, and once or twice as bombers, during the
First Gulf War.

tw wrote:

"Mike Marron" wrote in message
...
(Kirk Stant) wrote:

Just for fun, off the top of your heads, which post-WW2 combat
aircraft (any country) have NOT been used in their intended roles in
an actual shooting war (or police action, or soccer riot, or whatever
it's called these days)?

And why?

Some ROE:

1. Combat aircraft means it was designed or modified to employ
air-to-air or air-to-ground/ship/boat weapons.

2. Combat means someone was activily shooting back (or really wanted
to) while the aircraft was performing it's mission.

3. Let's leave out recce, that just gets too complicated!

To start things off, here are my USAF candidates:

B-36 - Held back from Korea for Nuke mission.
B-47 - Too early for Korea, too late for Vietnam (remember, no recce).
F-84F - Too early for Korea (ef considered a separate aircraft from
straight-wing F-84s), too late for Vietnam. Combat use by other
countries?
F-89 - Too late for Korea (?), not needed (no bomber threat).
F-106 - Not needed in Vietnam - F-102s deployed instead.
F-101 (Yeah, I know about the RF-101 in Cuba and Vietnam). Don't know
why F-101Cs weren't used early in Vietnam. Being phased out by then?

Could be wrong, but here goes:

Gloster Javelin,

Javelins were in a semi-shootin' war with Indonesia I believe. As was the
Sea Vixen. Both were intecepting aircraft but not shooting them down
(although I believe the Javelins managed to get an Indonesian C130 to fly
into the ground)

Avro Vulcan,

Falkland Islands not ring a bell?

Handley Page Victor

Dropped bombs in Indonesia conflict (I think) again.

Don't think so. Valiants dropped bombs in various places (Suez for sure), but
I dont think Victors ever did for real, although they did deploy.

Guy

In article ,
Mike Marron wrote:

Saab
29,

The Saab 29 (Tunnan, Flying Barrel) did see active duty between 1961
and 1963 during United Nations missions in Congo.

http://www.canit.se/~griffon/aviation/text/29kongo.htm

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Göran Larsson http://www.mitt-eget.com/