My Modest Proposal to End Global Warming, Revitalize General Aviation, and End Our Dependence on Foreign Oil

Scott wrote:

Oh...I forgot to ask if you were self employed. That would explain no
overtime pay since it is only required for employment covered in the
fair labor standards act...
http://www.dol.gov/esa/regs/compliance/whd/whdfs23.htm

Doesn't apply to the huge number of salaried employees. Either that,
or my ex-employee owes me a few million dollars.

Mark "don't I wish..." Hickey

Scott


Margy Natalie wrote:

Overtime? What a bizarre concept :-0, No we don't get overtime for
anything. If we work extra hours we can get comp time, if we get it
approved first. We can't work more than 10 per day (no 20/2), but the
9/5/4 works out ok, until you end up just going in for 2 or 3 hours on
Sunday and spending 6 (lawn is not mowed, leaves are not up, laundry is
not done, oh well, another weekend shot to hell, but I did get a few
minutes stick time in an L-39 JET this weekend!!!)

Margy

Scott wrote:

Do you get the mandatory overtime pay (5 hours) for the first week
where you work 45 hours in that work week or are you on salary? My
boss would never let us (non-exempt) folks work that schedule...wish
we had a 2-20 schedule (2 days a week, 20 hours each...work 20
straight, 8 off and then another straight 20)...would be great to have
5 day weekends

Scott


Margy Natalie wrote:

wrote:

Of course, those who still live out in the sticks will need some other
way to get around. This will be the rail lines, just like in the old
days, or they will fly, as God intended. New airports will spring up
like flowers after a rain. Flight instructors will be busy. The little
planes will no longer bother anybody because everyone will realize
they
are necessary. Aircraft manufacturers will finally have the incentive
to innovate and produce airplanes in reasonable numbers.



If by little planes you mean 4 seaters and such, then I doubt that
they will ever become reliable means of private transport like the
car. Even with an instrument rating it would require a high level of
skill, confidence and time commitment on part of the pilot to use a
little airplane regularly for commuting. Besides, no matter how many
airports spring up, there still remains the problem of getting from
the airport to the work place and back.
If more and more employers and employees work together to find ways to
work remotely from home, it would reduce automobile usage to an
extent.

This is a good reason for flex schedules I work a 9/5/4/ (9 hours, 5
days one week, 4 the next). If everyone did that it would reduce
travel 10%. Some folks work 10/4/4 which is a really long day, but
if you commute 4 hours a day (not unrealistic in this area) you save
a lot of real time and traffic is reduced 20%.

Margy

Scott wrote:
Oh...I forgot to ask if you were self employed. That would explain no
overtime pay since it is only required for employment covered in the
fair labor standards act...
http://www.dol.gov/esa/regs/compliance/whd/whdfs23.htm

Scott
Not sefl-employed, I'm a federal employee.

Margy




Margy Natalie wrote:


Overtime? What a bizarre concept :-0, No we don't get overtime for
anything. If we work extra hours we can get comp time, if we get it
approved first. We can't work more than 10 per day (no 20/2), but the
9/5/4 works out ok, until you end up just going in for 2 or 3 hours on
Sunday and spending 6 (lawn is not mowed, leaves are not up, laundry
is not done, oh well, another weekend shot to hell, but I did get a
few minutes stick time in an L-39 JET this weekend!!!)

Margy

Scott wrote:

Do you get the mandatory overtime pay (5 hours) for the first week
where you work 45 hours in that work week or are you on salary? My
boss would never let us (non-exempt) folks work that schedule...wish
we had a 2-20 schedule (2 days a week, 20 hours each...work 20
straight, 8 off and then another straight 20)...would be great to
have 5 day weekends

Scott


Margy Natalie wrote:

wrote:

Of course, those who still live out in the sticks will need some
other
way to get around. This will be the rail lines, just like in the old
days, or they will fly, as God intended. New airports will spring up
like flowers after a rain. Flight instructors will be busy. The
little
planes will no longer bother anybody because everyone will realize
they
are necessary. Aircraft manufacturers will finally have the incentive
to innovate and produce airplanes in reasonable numbers.



If by little planes you mean 4 seaters and such, then I doubt that
they will ever become reliable means of private transport like the
car. Even with an instrument rating it would require a high level of
skill, confidence and time commitment on part of the pilot to use a
little airplane regularly for commuting. Besides, no matter how many
airports spring up, there still remains the problem of getting from
the airport to the work place and back.
If more and more employers and employees work together to find ways to
work remotely from home, it would reduce automobile usage to an
extent.

This is a good reason for flex schedules I work a 9/5/4/ (9 hours, 5
days one week, 4 the next). If everyone did that it would reduce
travel 10%. Some folks work 10/4/4 which is a really long day, but
if you commute 4 hours a day (not unrealistic in this area) you save
a lot of real time and traffic is reduced 20%.

Margy

"Margy Natalie" wrote

but I did get a few minutes stick time in an L-39 JET this weekend!!!)

Cool beans!

Shoot, I'd settle for a ride in an L-39, let alone some stick time!

Go on; you told us a little, now spill it! Tell us all about it, so we can
live vicariously! g
--
Jim in NC

Morgans wrote:
"Margy Natalie" wrote


but I did get a few minutes stick time in an L-39 JET this weekend!!!)


Cool beans!

Shoot, I'd settle for a ride in an L-39, let alone some stick time!

Go on; you told us a little, now spill it! Tell us all about it, so we can
live vicariously! g
It was GREAT!!! The wonderful man who owns the L-39 and has flown to my
fly-in every year. He's mentioned he "owes" me a ride for a bit and we
hooked up at a local fly-in this weekend (thanks to my boss's boss who
is also checked out in L-39's).

Well, the ride was going to be around 2:30 (after they opened the
airspace from the show) so I figured I'd better eat about 1 (not too
empty, not too full) so at 12:45 I got in line. I didn't get my food
until 2:15 so I wolfed down BBQ and fries (not wise) and got out to the
airplane. Joe (boss's boss) straped me in, which I think he felt a bit
odd doing. We'd briefed earlier so he showed me what to pull "just in
case" etc. I was strapped to the parachute and it was attached to the
plane. "if something really bad happens pull that, Art will turn upside
down and you will fall out". Sounded good to me! In and locked in Art
fired up the best looking L-39 in the world (too me at least, as I was
INSIDE). All the instruments and warning lights are in Russian :-). It
was a bit odd to have my ears popping right there on the ground as he
pressurized.

He took off, over the runway we had already exceeded the Navion's red
line speed and I was way behind. We got up to about 3,500' and Art said
"you've got the airplane" and shook the stick. I said "you're
kidding" He said "No, your airplane" I shook the stick and held on
flying perfectly straight and level with a grin ear to ear. I was
flying a JET!!!! He said "you can turn if you want". Ok, I made really
gentle turns and my face hurt from smiling so wide. He said, "let me
show you a turn" and wow we turned! I flew a bit and he said "How about
an aileron roll" so I said sure (mind you I get sick on
Merry-go-rounds). So we did the roll which was really gentle until the
pull out and the BBQ started to rise, but not too far, whew. So I flew
for a bit and then it was time to go back. He thought I might know
where I was (as the ride was from my home field, but I was way not
knowing anything). A second later I spotted the "golf balls" (radomes)
and pointed them out and explained they were 45 for downwind.

He asked if I wanted him to do a break for landing or a regular pattern.
Well the stomach was back and I figured after the break we'd be on the
gound in a few seconds so I said "we can do the break", he replied "Are
you sure" I said "yeah, we can do the break" then I asked "How violent
is the break?" he replied "2 Gs" I said "OK" figuring we'd be on the
ground and out of the plane. Piece of cake.

So we zoom in faster than I normally do anything, whipped around in the
break (damned BBQ) and are coming around on final. This is WAY COOL.
Stomach is well, ok, but we will be on the ground in a few seconds, when
I hear "Culpeper traffic, Cessna xxxx departing runway 22, Culpeper". I
look down and someone is getting ready to get on the runway right in
front of us. Art calls, "Culpeper traffic can you delay your departure
for the JET on final", "Culpeper traffic, Cessna departing 22 ... "
damned she was talking, but not listening so around we go (with someone
else on the radio asking for a tail number). The go around was
uneventful and we came in for a smooth landing.

This was a GREAT moment for me. I did aerobatics (well, aerobatic
singular) and didn't throw up! I flew really fast and it was really
cool and wow it was GREAT! I would recommend it to anyone.

I'm still a bit dizzy from the thrill and people are tired of me
spontaniously shouting "I flew a JET!" periodically :-). This in one of
the great perks of my job. I get to meet really cool people. Art is
one of the best I've ever met, he has a really cool plane and as soon as
I got out he had kids in the airplane (not flying) for the rest of the
day. At my fly-in he spends the entire day putting kids in and out of
the plane. It is great. I found out this weekend he's also the only
one to ever dead-stick a Harrier in (Richmond, VA) he got a medal for
that. He recently aquired a Harrier and hopefully will have it on the
airshow circut soon. He's a really nice guy with really cool planes.

Hee hee hee I flew a JET!

Margy

On 2007-10-14 00:39:27 -0600, said:


Of course, those who still live out in the sticks will need some other
way to get around. This will be the rail lines, just like in the old
days, or they will fly, as God intended. New airports will spring up
like flowers after a rain. Flight instructors will be busy. The little
planes will no longer bother anybody because everyone will realize they
are necessary. Aircraft manufacturers will finally have the incentive
to innovate and produce airplanes in reasonable numbers.


If by little planes you mean 4 seaters and such, then I doubt that
they will ever become reliable means of private transport like the
car. Even with an instrument rating it would require a high level of
skill, confidence and time commitment on part of the pilot to use a
little airplane regularly for commuting. Besides, no matter how many
airports spring up, there still remains the problem of getting from
the airport to the work place and back.
If more and more employers and employees work together to find ways to
work remotely from home, it would reduce automobile usage to an
extent.

Nevertheless, NASA is committed to developing the advanced technology
to make flying an airplane as easy and safe as driving a car, if not
more so. Modern glass panel avionics are one part of that. The Adam is
based on the ideas developed in this program.

It is going to happen -- if GA manages to survive until then.
--
Waddling Eagle
World Famous Flight Instructor

On Sun, 21 Oct 2007 19:22:54 -0600, C J Campbell
wrote:

On 2007-10-14 00:39:27 -0600, said:


Of course, those who still live out in the sticks will need some other
way to get around. This will be the rail lines, just like in the old
days, or they will fly, as God intended. New airports will spring up
like flowers after a rain. Flight instructors will be busy. The little
planes will no longer bother anybody because everyone will realize they
are necessary. Aircraft manufacturers will finally have the incentive
to innovate and produce airplanes in reasonable numbers.


If by little planes you mean 4 seaters and such, then I doubt that
they will ever become reliable means of private transport like the
car. Even with an instrument rating it would require a high level of

They could with the work NASA is doing, BUT *affordable* is a horse of
a different color.

skill, confidence and time commitment on part of the pilot to use a
little airplane regularly for commuting. Besides, no matter how many
airports spring up, there still remains the problem of getting from
the airport to the work place and back.

It would be possible even with today's technology to build an airplane
that could be programmed, or automated to fly from point A to B and
far easier than with cars. The resulting aircraft would, or could
require far less skill than required of today's pilots.

The most difficult to implement and expensive parts lie at each end
of the trip as well as with traffic control.

OTOH like anything that says "airplane" on it, I don't see it becoming
economical.
If more and more employers and employees work together to find ways to
work remotely from home, it would reduce automobile usage to an
extent.

The question is how many could routinely do this and to what extent
would it reduce automobile usage? When you get right down to it, only
a small percent of the work force can work from home. Even office and
data management work can not all be done from home. Yes, a lot of
communications can take place via the Internet/electronically, but
there still needs to be a face-to-face interaction between workers as
well as workers and management.

I used to do a bit more than half my work from home. (Sys admin,
Developmental Analyst, and finally project manager) HOWEVER that
didn't result in less driving. I spent less time at the plants and
corporate headquarters, but I still had to be there nearly every day.
I had to be there often enough they owed me over 90 days of vacation
when I retired.


Nevertheless, NASA is committed to developing the advanced technology
to make flying an airplane as easy and safe as driving a car, if not
more so. Modern glass panel avionics are one part of that. The Adam is
based on the ideas developed in this program.

It is going to happen -- if GA manages to survive until then.

I have no doubt they can do it. It could be done with today's
technology, but I have my doubts that it can be made practical and
economical.

Roger (K8RI)