Awesome, free anti-virus program

"Roger Halstead" wrote in message
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Once things get screwed up Norton can be a real pain to fix as it
leaves tracks all over the computer.

I've used Norton for ten years without a problem on my personal and company
machines. I've repaired a number of manchines that had Norton removal
issues - almost all could be fixed by a reinstall/uninstall.

I would almost rather go naked than run McAfee on a machine. It can be
horrible to remove all traces of this application and can be buggy as hell.

In a previous post, somebody commented that x AV found a virus that y AV
missed. In many cases, this appears to be the case, but something else is
going on.

In some cases, an AV program can alert on a file that has been fixed by
another AV program, as AV programs have different definition profiles and
different schemes for removing a virus.

In other cases, an AV program can alert to the def files or log files of
another AV program.

"Roger Halstead" wrote in message
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On 31 Aug 2003 12:08:09 -0700, (Ken Sandyeggo)
wrote:

Although this could be the greatest virus checker ever invented.
When I see awesome and free in the same line it goes in the bit
bucket. That is one of the key triggers for spam in many filters.

Roger Halstead (K8RI EN73 & ARRL Life Member)
www.rogerhalstead.com
N833R World's oldest Debonair? (S# CD-2)

HAHA,

Kinda like opinions on this NG Roger?


James Taylor
www.AICompany.com

Guess I should expect constructive criticism from RAH anymore?

Jay Honeck wrote:

Norton does not have a fix that assures me that it is actually
functioning. I am now looking at McAfee. Any suggestions on the Norton?

Blame Bill Gates!

Hey, it works for everything (and everyone) else on the is newsgroup!
--
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Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

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Bruce A. Frank

On Mon, 01 Sep 2003 18:39:15 GMT, "C.D. Damron"
wrote:


"Roger Halstead" wrote in message
.. .
Once things get screwed up Norton can be a real pain to fix as it
leaves tracks all over the computer.

I've used Norton for ten years without a problem on my personal and company
machines. I've repaired a number of manchines that had Norton removal
issues - almost all could be fixed by a reinstall/uninstall.

I would almost rather go naked than run McAfee on a machine. It can be
horrible to remove all traces of this application and can be buggy as hell.

I'm a computer tech and have used Norton since about 15 years ago -
when Peter Norton was in charge and it was the only game in town. I do
not use it today.
I have also used McAfee for years - and I have NEVER had a problem
removing it from my system. It works quite well. In the last 3 years I
have not had any "buggy" issues with it. I use the Online
subscription.

In a previous post, somebody commented that x AV found a virus that y AV
missed. In many cases, this appears to be the case, but something else is
going on.

In some cases, an AV program can alert on a file that has been fixed by
another AV program, as AV programs have different definition profiles and
different schemes for removing a virus.

In other cases, an AV program can alert to the def files or log files of
another AV program.

Norton does not have a fix that assures me that it is actually
functioning. I am now looking at McAfee. Any suggestions on the Norton?

What version of norton are u running. I do computer consulting and were using
norton at evrey business we do and we never have any problems. What icon are u
talking about since i have norton set to check my email instant messangers etc,
but yet i dont have any icons playing. Personaly i think mcafee SUCKS. If u
want to use something else go to www.pandasoftware.com I think thats the 2nd
best antivirus software outthere. I know we use there free online scanner to
fix computers when we get a new client who always seems to have mcafee running
on it and just a ton of virus.
Christopher Wilcox, President
CGW Insurance/Investments
Registered Investment Advisor
www.cgwi.com

clare @ snyder.on .ca wrote in message
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On Mon, 01 Sep 2003 18:39:15 GMT, "C.D. Damron"
wrote:

I'm a computer tech and have used Norton since about 15 years ago -
when Peter Norton was in charge and it was the only game in town. I do
not use it today.
I have also used McAfee for years - and I have NEVER had a problem
removing it from my system. It works quite well. In the last 3 years I
have not had any "buggy" issues with it. I use the Online
subscription.


It is clear that our experiences differ.

You mention that you have never had a problem removing it from your system,
without mentioning your experiences with your customer's systems. I
haven't had problems removing either Norton or McAfee from MY machines.
However, my experience with customer machines has been dramatically
different.

Users tend to stick with whatever AV they have been using, so removals have
been relatively rare for me until recently. As credible free AV programs
have become available, more and more of my customers are asking me to remove
Norton and McAfee AV programs from their machines. Some of my customers
that have been running both Norton and McAfee are giving up McAfee after
witnessing their slower reaction time to new threats, recently.

Just this weekend, I attempted to remove a McAfee AV and firewall. While
the removal didn't cause any problems, the uninstall didn't remove all
components.

I have had problems removing it from a dozen systems. The web is full of
helpful removal tips for those cursed with the ghost of McAfee. NAV, from
NAV 2001 to Symantec Corporate Edition, have presented no removal problems
for me.

On some of the computer boards, my suggestion of a reinstall/uninstall has
cured every case of a stubborn NAV removal.

My experiences might be geographically biased, given the University of
Kentucky's wide usage of McAfee. I have probably seen a disproportionate
amount of McAfee problems, in my town. However, a little Google research
will reveal the McAfee is ahead of the pack, with regards to removal issues.

Not that I don't have my gripes with NAV, a number of viruses require manual
removal after detection. Not a big deal for a professional, but I'm not
sure that everybody should be messing around with the Windows registry.

Let me know if you run into any problems removing McAfee in the future. I'd
be glad to help.

Norton does not have a fix that assures me that it is actually
functioning. I am now looking at McAfee. Any suggestions on the Norton?

What version of norton are u running. I do computer consulting and were using
norton at evrey business we do and we never have any problems. What icon are u
talking about since i have norton set to check my email instant messangers etc,
but yet i dont have any icons playing.

Christopher Wilcox
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

I run Norton and there is an icon in my Taskbar.

It reports... Norton Antivirus Auto-Protect Enabled.
When I double left click the icon, Norton SystemWorks
2003 reports the System Status and more.

Barnyard BOb --

In article , clare @ snyder.on .ca
writes:


I'm a computer tech and have used Norton since about 15 years ago -
when Peter Norton was in charge and it was the only game in town. I do
not use it today.
I have also used McAfee for years - and I have NEVER had a problem
removing it from my system. It works quite well. In the last 3 years I
have not had any "buggy" issues with it. I use the Online
subscription.



I used McAfee for some time until I finally traced a problem with my machine
freezing up several times per day to McAfee. I removed it and never experience
a problem after that. I will not go back again. I got real tired of having to
power down everthing and then waiting for the disk checks to run.


Bob Reed
www.kisbuild.r-a-reed-assoc.com (KIS Builders Site)
KIS Cruiser in progress...Slow but steady progress....

"Ladies and Gentlemen, take my advice,
pull down your pants and Slide on the Ice!"
(M.A.S.H. Sidney Freedman)

The way my Norton USED to work was that when Eudora was receiving email
a new animated envelope icon would pop up in the systray (task bar lower
RH side of my Win 2000 screen) As email was downloaded the envelope
would open and close as each message was scanned.

The icon for the Norton Anti-virus program is always there allowing one
to right click and select to open or disable the auto-protect part of
program.

Barnyard BOb -- wrote:

Norton does not have a fix that assures me that it is actually
functioning. I am now looking at McAfee. Any suggestions on the Norton?

What version of norton are u running. I do computer consulting and were using
norton at evrey business we do and we never have any problems. What icon are u
talking about since i have norton set to check my email instant messangers etc,
but yet i dont have any icons playing.

Christopher Wilcox
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

I run Norton and there is an icon in my Taskbar.

It reports... Norton Antivirus Auto-Protect Enabled.
When I double left click the icon, Norton SystemWorks
2003 reports the System Status and more.

Barnyard BOb --

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Homebuilt Aircraft Newsletter"
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Norton 2003 Pro
Right click on the icon and the choices are open disable/enable and configure.
I never have had a problem in all our systems with the email. But it could be
becasue of the eudora which i am not familiar with. All of our clients use
outlook for there email. I think if you were still having problems after
uninstalling and reinstalling norton this is what i would do.
Uninstall norton. Shut down the computer. Go to www.iolo.com and download
system mechanic. You get a 30 day free trial. Its a great program by the way.
Even microsoft endorses it to clean up the registry and for other things. I
would clean up your registery then reboot and then reinstall norton. If u had
a cable modem i would also go to www.pandasoftware.com and run there online
virus scan before reinstalling norton. SInce there are some virus that have
been written to disable norton and once u have them u cant reinstall norton and
get it to work properly.

chris