New GA Security System at KFRG

In article ,
"Marco Leon" wrote:

"Yes - I have a name" wrote in message
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Is Massport taking over FRG?

No, but Hanscom was referred to quite a bit. From what I understand, this is
the first large implementation since the handful of airports (i.e. Massport
airports) were done soon after 9-11.

The only reference that should be made to Massport is wrt how not
to do it.

Somehow Massport can't stop losing money when charging hangar rates
almost twice those at other MA airports. This is the organization you want
having any involvement in running an airport?

--
Bob Noel
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Marco Leon wrote:


New York State--who referred to FRG as becoming the "crown jewel" of GA
airport security.

A dubious distinction, to be sure!

That would be like someone naming your restaurant the "crown jewel" of
ptomaine poisoning.

John Galban=====N4BQ (PA28-180)

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In article ,
"Marco Leon" wrote:

They were pretty slick. About 4 months ago, they held a meeting to say that
they will badge everyone who has access to an airplane and flat-out deny
vehicle access. The uproar was over the vehicle access so they met with the
pilot groups (one represented by AOPA) and worked out a deal where we pay
$100/year/vehicle to help defray costs of the gate access. No one objected
to the badging in general--no one. This is out of about 200 people who
showed up at that first meeting.

ask them about bikes and motorcycles. The morons doing security at KBED
think cars are ok but motorcycles, bikes, and even pedestrians are bad.
(yes - there was a gate at KBED that had NO pedestrian access, don't know
if they still have it, I left the massport hangar).

--
Bob Noel
(goodness, please trim replies!!!)

In article ,
"Marco Leon" wrote:

Get ready guys, here it comes. In short, badges for every operator and
badged-carrying escorts for all others on the ramp (i.e. passengers).
Background checks every 2 years on our dime.

About to flip the switch in a few weeks.

Marco

Do you have the idiotic requirement for a prop lock?

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Bob Noel
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On Thu, 08 Nov 2007 17:28:45 -0500, Bob Noel
wrote:

In article ,
"Marco Leon" wrote:

Get ready guys, here it comes. In short, badges for every operator and
badged-carrying escorts for all others on the ramp (i.e. passengers).
Background checks every 2 years on our dime.

About to flip the switch in a few weeks.

Marco

Do you have the idiotic requirement for a prop lock?

The FBO at HPN padlocked my tail tiedown when I went there for a
couple of hours a week or two ago. They said it was required by the
state. I expect that or a prop lock would be required. That makes NY
and NJ with massport facilities in MA that I know of that have the
'two lock' rule. Course, door and ignition doesn't seem to count as
two locks, but I digress.

In article ,
Peter Clark wrote:

The FBO at HPN padlocked my tail tiedown when I went there for a
couple of hours a week or two ago.

It's left as an exercise for the student to determine how long it would
take to defeat a padlock on the tail tiedown of the typical small
aircraft.

--
Bob Noel
(goodness, please trim replies!!!)

On Thu, 08 Nov 2007 18:09:49 -0500, Bob Noel
wrote:

In article ,
Peter Clark wrote:

The FBO at HPN padlocked my tail tiedown when I went there for a
couple of hours a week or two ago.

It's left as an exercise for the student to determine how long it would
take to defeat a padlock on the tail tiedown of the typical small
aircraft.

I wasn't commenting on the usefulness of any of the stuff, but someone
asled if extra locks/prop locks were required, I postulate that they
were before the SIDA stuff came in. I know they were at BED if you
weren't in a locked T-hanagar.

No prop locks at FRG but there is a requirement for two locks. They provided
cables and big padlock for all the aircraft (at their cost, which I
acknowledge was nice) right before GW flew into our airport for a 9-11
commemoration a couple years back. If you have a lock on your door, you're
good.

Marco


"Peter Clark" wrote in message
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On Thu, 08 Nov 2007 18:09:49 -0500, Bob Noel
wrote:

In article ,
Peter Clark wrote:

The FBO at HPN padlocked my tail tiedown when I went there for a
couple of hours a week or two ago.

It's left as an exercise for the student to determine how long it would
take to defeat a padlock on the tail tiedown of the typical small
aircraft.

I wasn't commenting on the usefulness of any of the stuff, but someone
asled if extra locks/prop locks were required, I postulate that they
were before the SIDA stuff came in. I know they were at BED if you
weren't in a locked T-hanagar.

Hmm, no one asked about two-wheeled vehicles but someone did ask if they
could park their boat there believe it or not.

Marco
"Bob Noel" wrote in message

ask them about bikes and motorcycles. The morons doing security at KBED
think cars are ok but motorcycles, bikes, and even pedestrians are bad.
(yes - there was a gate at KBED that had NO pedestrian access, don't know
if they still have it, I left the massport hangar).

"JGalban via AviationKB.com" u32749@uwe wrote in message
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A dubious distinction, to be sure!

That would be like someone naming your restaurant the "crown jewel" of
ptomaine poisoning.

Well, if ptomaine poisoning somehow made some politician look good, you can
bet that would be popular.

Marco