Excellent TV Piece on GA

Second class vs. third class. Makes a difference if your going to be paid
for your flying, you are held to a higher standard.


"kontiki" wrote in message
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Jay Honeck wrote:

The medical requirement is, quite frankly, a joke. The doc checks
your eyes, your heart, makes sure you can carry on a conversation, and
takes your check. Heck, you don't even have to "turn your head and
cough" to get signed off for a 3rd class medical.

Uhh.. my doc does a real thorough job when I get my 2nd class medical.
Blood pressure, temperature, height and weight, urine sample, felt all
over (literally) and yes, I even have to cough. I would not classify it
as a joke, I would call it a very thorough flight physical.

news.verizon.net wrote:
Second class vs. third class. Makes a difference if your going to be
paid for your flying, you are held to a higher standard.


The only difference between 2nd and 3rd class is a slightly
stricter vision requirement (must be 20/20 distant where 3rd
class allows for 20/40 distant). They are both held to the
same standard, other than that particular aspect of the vision
test. The actual physical examination should be the same.

Mxsmanic wrote in
:

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I think the six-thousand-dollar part is where a lot of viewers will
stop listening. I can't find Part I but the medical part would also
lose a fair number of viewers.

If it were as difficult to drive as it is to fly, cars would be so
rare that they'd turn heads as they passed (and people would be trying
to forbid them to escape the noise).

Conversely, if it were as easy to fly as it is to drive, the landscape
would be littered with the wreckage of planes and cadavers, but the
aircraft would only cost $15,000 or so, and new models would come out
every year, rendering the old ones obsolete.




You're an idiot.


Bertie

On Nov 21, 5:11 pm, Jay Honeck wrote:

Amazing! This Cedar Rapids, Iowa TV station did a 2-part piece on
learning to fly -- and did a wonderful job!

The CFI in both segments, Tim Bush, is outstanding. He's a real
pistol, locally, with a zillion ideas for growing GA, and endless
energy to boot.

If only we could get more publicity like this....

Only part I'd disagree with is the six month duration for completing
training. When I was a full time instructor, the folks that only had
the weekends to fly would take the better part of a year owing to
weather and unavoidable schedule conflicts. As far as cost, if you
could get it done for $5k you're lucky. Here in CT it's closer to $7k
with the run-up in fuel costs.

On Thu, 22 Nov 2007 20:47:23 -0800 (PST), Kingfish
wrote:

Here in CT it's closer to $7k
with the run-up in fuel costs.

I'd go even higher, now.

At HVN, HFD, and IJD, Warriors and 172's are renting for $120-125/hr.
wet, with 150's and Traumahawk's hitting $105-$110. Some of the
bigger schools are going $55-60/hr. for instructors. I don't know of
schools charging less than $50/hr. for instruction.

For a 55 hr. PPL, that's over 10 grand. I think it would even run
high8's to low 9's at Meriden or Robertson.

"B A R R Y" wrote...

Kingfish wrote:
Here in CT it's closer to $7k
with the run-up in fuel costs.

I'd go even higher, now.

At HVN, HFD, and IJD, Warriors and 172's are renting for $120-125/hr.
wet, with 150's and Traumahawk's hitting $105-$110. Some of the
bigger schools are going $55-60/hr. for instructors. I don't know of
schools charging less than $50/hr. for instruction.

For a 55 hr. PPL, that's over 10 grand. I think it would even run
high8's to low 9's at Meriden or Robertson.

I will echo all those prices on Long Island, NY, except I would add the
hidden fuel surcharge of $8-10 per hour. It's never posted on the rate board
and claimed to change every day, but the few times I rented over the past
year its been consistant.

At HVN, HFD, and IJD, Warriors and 172's are renting for $120-125/hr.
wet, with 150's and Traumahawk's hitting $105-$110. Some of the
bigger schools are going $55-60/hr. for instructors. I don't know of
schools charging less than $50/hr. for instruction.

Out here in God's Country, instruction is $30/hour.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
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At HVN, HFD, and IJD, Warriors and 172's are renting for $120-125/hr.
wet, with 150's and Traumahawk's hitting $105-$110. Some of the
bigger schools are going $55-60/hr. for instructors. I don't know of
schools charging less than $50/hr. for instruction.

Out here in God's Country, instruction is $30/hour.
--

In Oklahoma you can get a 152 for $57-$67, depending on hourly or block
time, and instructors for as little as $25.

I rent a 172SP with autopilot and color moving map for $100.

On Nov 23, 12:13 pm, Jay Honeck wrote:
Out here in God's Country, instruction is $30/hour.
--

Jay,
I always thought that God's Country was much bigger. How could all
God's children fit into an area of only 24.4 square miles?

Hai Longworth

On Fri, 23 Nov 2007 09:13:06 -0800 (PST), Jay Honeck
wrote:

At HVN, HFD, and IJD, Warriors and 172's are renting for $120-125/hr.
wet, with 150's and Traumahawk's hitting $105-$110. Some of the
bigger schools are going $55-60/hr. for instructors. I don't know of
schools charging less than $50/hr. for instruction.

Out here in God's Country, instruction is $30/hour.

We live in the area of the $200k+ "starter" home and $1000/mo. single
bedroom apartment. ;^(

The guy I know who owns a school pays his instructors $25/billable
hour, billed out at $55. I don't think he could keep the lights on
for a $5 cut, and he wouldn't have many decent instructors if he paid
them much less.