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Old December 10th 07, 09:06 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
GetErDone
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" No, that only happens in a utopian society. History shows
that the ugly reality is
different and must be counterbalanced(reverse racism),
even if the results cannot ever be perfect"

Your motives are exposed right here. It's OK to discriminate
against white males as long as the end justifies the means
right? Counterbalance or reverse racism? Explain the difference.

Racism in reverse. You just admitted it. The FAA is a mess
due to politically correct hiring. Period. I will never
convince you. But the FAA employees know.

I guess it will take a major disaster to prove it

Stay tuned it's coming



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Old December 10th 07, 09:31 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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GetErDone wrote:
The FAA is a mess
due to politically correct hiring. Period. I will never
convince you. But the FAA employees know.



Here's the problem. You act as if the FAA is the only entity with an
affirmative action plan and then blame that plan on all of its perceived
failures. If affirmative action plans really cause the problems you suggest
then those problems would be seen everywhere they are in place.

This makes you a double AssHat because it shows you are A. a racist and B.
that you are selfish because you are only worried about the problem where
you think it intersected your life.


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Old December 10th 07, 09:31 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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"GetErDone" wrote in message
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I guess it will take a major disaster to prove it

Stay tuned it's coming


How long do we wait?

"Soon" is not specific enough. I need a number of days.


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Old December 11th 07, 02:03 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
John Mazor[_2_]
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"GetErDone" wrote in message ...
" No, that only happens in a utopian society. History shows that the ugly reality
is
different and must be counterbalanced(reverse racism), even if the results cannot
ever be perfect"

Your motives are exposed right here. It's OK to discriminate against white males as
long as the end justifies the means right?


1. We legally discriminate against all types of people. Why should white males be
exempt when the situation warrants it? Besides,

2. The policies you bewail don't negatively affect just white males, and

3. Making the above observations does not constitute "motive" for anything I have
said. They're just statements of fact - you know, those things you claim you have
and I don't. Being a white male, I have no desire to foster a class war against
white males. But you wallow in the goober logic of "If you ain't fer us yer' agin'
us."

discriminate Counterbalance or reverse racism? Explain the difference.


The difference lies in the intent. If the intent is simply to reverse the roles of
black and white while maintaining a discriminatory system, that's reverse racism and
is wrong. If the intent is to offset the effects of prejudicial practices and
establish a level playing field, then it's a justifiable counterbalance.

Racism in reverse. You just admitted it.


Nope. I just explained why it's not that.

The FAA is a mess
due to politically correct hiring. Period. I will never convince you.


Or anyone else who isn't blinkered by ignorance and hatred, as you are.

But the FAA employees know.


Funny, I didn't see anything to that effect in the blog site that you claimed proved
your case.

I guess it will take a major disaster to prove it


Why? The vast record of documented FAA mistakes and lapses over the decades can't
already make your case? One more disaster, no matter how major, will ever "get 'er
done" to prove your moronic claim. Accidents are way too complicated to prove
something that vague.


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Old December 11th 07, 04:59 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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On Dec 10, 8:39 am, GetErDone spewed his usual,
childish crap:

I am listening for your FACTS and rebuttal


Are you a pilot?

Do you enjoy flying and talking about flying?

Why don't you try?

Darrell

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Old December 10th 07, 12:05 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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"GetErDone" wrote in message
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Rescue crews continued Sunday searching for bodies of two pilots presumed dead
after their small planes collided and crashed into the Everglades.


According to the map in this morning's paper, that accident happened in a
busy practice area not far from a popular reporting point (the bend in the
Sawgrass Expressway). I was terribly afraid that my favorite rental mount was
involved, but apparently not this time. There are several nearby airports, so
It is unlikely that the two planes were on the same radio channel.

Whilst flying, remember to look out the front window folks.

Vaughn


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Old December 10th 07, 05:42 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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On Dec 9, 4:05 pm, "Vaughn Simon"
wrote:
"GetErDone" wrote in message

...

Rescue crews continued Sunday searching for bodies of two pilots presumed dead
after their small planes collided and crashed into the Everglades.


According to the map in this morning's paper, that accident happened in a
busy practice area not far from a popular reporting point (the bend in the
Sawgrass Expressway). I was terribly afraid that my favorite rental mount was
involved, but apparently not this time. There are several nearby airports, so
It is unlikely that the two planes were on the same radio channel.

Whilst flying, remember to look out the front window folks.

Vaughn


However, if the descending plane is low wing and the one
flying level is a high wing in more or less aligned tract,
it will be almost impossible to see each other.

I have a Zaon PCAS unit that can detect many
whose transponders are on. And I get nervous
when I hear someone near the same reporting point
I am at, but without visual, nor PCAS reading.

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Old December 11th 07, 02:30 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Vaughn Simon
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wrote in message
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However, if the descending plane is low wing and the one
flying level is a high wing in more or less aligned tract,
it will be almost impossible to see each other.


Yes, but that does not alter the need for us to keep a visual lookout as best
we can. TCAS is great, as long as it does not reduce the time you have your
eyes (and attention) outside the cockpit.

This accident was apparently a high wing vs. low wing encounter, but we have
(as yet) no way to know if that was a factor.

They recovered the remains of one of the pilots today from gator-populated
swamp. According to local media, the other pilot was a foreign student. Sad
thing.

Vaughn


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Old December 12th 07, 03:05 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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On Dec 10, 9:30 pm, "Vaughn Simon"
wrote:

A local newspaper posted the flight tracks he
http://www.palmbeachpost.com/news/mplayer/pbpost news/47426

It appears to have been a pretty plain right-angle collision, only
complicated by a slight turn that the 152 was making, which might
actually have improved his chances of seeing and being seen. I don't
see how the high-wing vs. low-wing thing could have been an issue.

Assuming perfect conditions, both pilots had about 30 seconds to
detect and react to a threat that was not in their normal line of
vision. Given the same situation, I wish I could say that I would
have done better.

My other thought is that bit of airspace is really busy, busier than
it appears to the naked eye. In the future, I will be avoiding
casual flights through that area.

Vaughn
 




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