Hilarious

"LWG" wrote in message
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How do you expect American companies to compete against the world when the
American companies have to pay their workers 60k -100k per year, whether
they work or not, and then support them in retirement in that same
standard of living for as long as thirty to forty years?
.................................................. ..........

.................................................. ...Remember that as you
crow about how great the products are from developing companies, you are
purchasing that quality at the expense of your fellow workers.

That.....does......not.....compute! That.......does......not......compute!

TP

2 decades ago, alot of American car factories were shut down due to
the surge of Japanese cars and because of that alot of American
factories workers held resentment against Japanese cars, and the
situation only got better when Japanese automakers decide to open many
factories in America.

2 decades ago the Japanese got a strong foothold here because
Americans saw that the imports were well-made, tough and economical,
while the American product was mostly crap. Remember the Dodge Dart
and the K Car? The Japanese imports were a wake-up call to the Big
Three that our Detroit brothers were slow to respond to.

AJ wrote in news:615a2c9c-fa6c-4339-a9a2-
:

2 decades ago, alot of American car factories were shut down due to
the surge of Japanese cars and because of that alot of American
factories workers held resentment against Japanese cars, and the
situation only got better when Japanese automakers decide to open many
factories in America.

2 decades ago the Japanese got a strong foothold here because
Americans saw that the imports were well-made, tough and economical,
while the American product was mostly crap. Remember the Dodge Dart
and the K Car? The Japanese imports were a wake-up call to the Big
Three that our Detroit brothers were slow to respond to.




Old Dodge Darts were OK actually. Or was that your point?
I had a 62 Plymouth Valiant and it was damn near bulletproof. Relatively
cheap to run too.

Bertie

"Bertie the Bunyip" wrote in message
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AJ wrote in news:615a2c9c-fa6c-4339-a9a2-
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2 decades ago, alot of American car factories were shut down due to
the surge of Japanese cars and because of that alot of American
factories workers held resentment against Japanese cars, and the
situation only got better when Japanese automakers decide to open many
factories in America.

2 decades ago the Japanese got a strong foothold here because
Americans saw that the imports were well-made, tough and economical,
while the American product was mostly crap. Remember the Dodge Dart
and the K Car? The Japanese imports were a wake-up call to the Big
Three that our Detroit brothers were slow to respond to.




Old Dodge Darts were OK actually. Or was that your point?
I had a 62 Plymouth Valiant and it was damn near bulletproof. Relatively
cheap to run too.

Bertie

Yep, the Dart with a slant-six was probably one of the best old-lady cars of
the era. :-) My brother's 1st car was a 72 or 73 Swinger (the one with the
little flower graphic on the side). He couldn't wait to get rid of it and
get something..., anything, else so his friends would quit ragging him.
Prolly wishes he had that one back today in the condition it was then. A lot
of these old Darts grew up to be pretty "bad" with a little help from their
owners. But usually all a high school kid could afford was a set of
"shackles" and some hood pins... The mags and big tires had to wait until
summer when they had a job.

Now the K-cars were a different story. Our local Sheriff's Dept. used them
for a couple of years and all I heard from the deputy friends I had was
constant complaining about how #$@*& they were!

Tony P.

Recently, AJ posted:

2 decades ago, alot of American car factories were shut down due to
the surge of Japanese cars and because of that alot of American
factories workers held resentment against Japanese cars, and the
situation only got better when Japanese automakers decide to open
many factories in America.

2 decades ago the Japanese got a strong foothold here because
Americans saw that the imports were well-made, tough and economical,
while the American product was mostly crap. Remember the Dodge Dart
and the K Car? The Japanese imports were a wake-up call to the Big
Three that our Detroit brothers were slow to respond to.

The big three have yet to respond to that wake-up call. There is not one
vehicle from any of them that can match the quality, economy and
reliability of most Japanese-made cars. As an example, I sold my last
Japanese car to a friend (last time I'll make *that* mistake), it is now
17 years old and still running strong with no major repairs and
less-than-minimal maintenance. Because of the significant increase in
purchase price, I don't think I'll get the same cost of ownership out of
my current model, but it is now 7 years old and runs like new, only
requiring recommended maintenance and one change of tires.

Neil

Some have learned..

My 1990 Town Car is still going, reliabily and lookin good, with
owner #3....

And Toyota just got a downgrade from Consumer Reports..

Times/things constantly change..

Dave

On Mon, 31 Dec 2007 15:11:08 GMT, "Neil Gould"
wrote:

Recently, AJ posted:

2 decades ago, alot of American car factories were shut down due to
the surge of Japanese cars and because of that alot of American
factories workers held resentment against Japanese cars, and the
situation only got better when Japanese automakers decide to open
many factories in America.

2 decades ago the Japanese got a strong foothold here because
Americans saw that the imports were well-made, tough and economical,
while the American product was mostly crap. Remember the Dodge Dart
and the K Car? The Japanese imports were a wake-up call to the Big
Three that our Detroit brothers were slow to respond to.

The big three have yet to respond to that wake-up call. There is not one
vehicle from any of them that can match the quality, economy and
reliability of most Japanese-made cars. As an example, I sold my last
Japanese car to a friend (last time I'll make *that* mistake), it is now
17 years old and still running strong with no major repairs and
less-than-minimal maintenance. Because of the significant increase in
purchase price, I don't think I'll get the same cost of ownership out of
my current model, but it is now 7 years old and runs like new, only
requiring recommended maintenance and one change of tires.

Neil

The big three have yet to respond to that wake-up call.

I'd have to disagree with that. I bought a new Ford Thunderbird in
1992. It has been my daily driver ever since, and now has 180K miles.
Other than an Idle Motor (part of the fuel injection) and a wheel
bearing, it has needed nothing other than tires and brakes and normal
maintenance. Still has the original belts and hoses.

Would I buy another one? You bet your ass I would!

David Johnson

AJ wrote:
2 decades ago, alot of American car factories were shut down due to
the surge of Japanese cars and because of that alot of American
factories workers held resentment against Japanese cars, and the
situation only got better when Japanese automakers decide to open many
factories in America.

2 decades ago the Japanese got a strong foothold here because
Americans saw that the imports were well-made, tough and economical,
while the American product was mostly crap. Remember the Dodge Dart
and the K Car?

Oh yeah. When I moved to California in the 80s, I figured I really ought
to enjoy the opportunity to drive a convertible. The Chrysler Lebaron
was the only new one in my price range at the time. Took delivery, and
the next day returned to the dealer with a full page, typewritten, of
defects they need to fix. Starting with replacing the windshield (badly
orange peeled) and fixing the roof latch casting that broke the first
time I took the top down and put it back up.

And customer service? Took two hours of arguing to get the to give me a
loaner since I wasn't about to drive around in a car where I couldn't
secure the top. When I got in the van to go get the car, another
customer was sitting there looking shell-shocked. I asked him what was
up. He had shown up to pick his car up from the shop, and they told him
that they had accidentally torched it - burned it right up. Nice.

ObAviationContent: The empty lot next to this dealer is where a Westwind
bizjet augered in after being caught in the wake turbulence behind a 757
on approach into SNA, leading to the increased separation requirements
for traffic following 757s.

On Fri, 28 Dec 2007 14:07:33 -0800 (PST),
wrote:


sometimes it makes me laugh to think what would happen to boeing if
japan was to make passenger planes. lol

God bless america !

Actually, US manufacturing workers are every bit as productive as
Japanese and Koreans. Our decline in the manufacturing sector is a
function of our tax system, not our businesses.

30 years ago, Europe and Asia switched to border adjustable VAT taxes
as their primary source of government revenue, but the US has
persisted as the only developed country relying entirely on income and
payroll taxes, which by international law, are not border adjustable,
for Federal revenue.

All we need do is enact a consumption tax as a complete replacement
for taxation of income (www.FairTax.org ) and the US will dominate
manufacturing of automobiles, heavy equipment and tooling just as we
already dominate airliner production.

Of course, when we do so, Europe will fall into chaos and we'll have
to go over there and get your countries back for you again.

Don


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