Close Encounters Of The Third Kind

"Gord Beaman" wrote in message
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| (robert arndt) wrote:
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| The sky was reported as distorted, not making sense
| as well as time being lost.
|
| snort Riiiight!!
| --
|
| -Gord.


(according to the program I saw...)


At that time of the year off the Florida Keys, the horizon blends easily
into the sky - similar to the sky full of snow that you'd be accustomed to.

The primary difference between the two locations would be that Florida lacks
huge quantities of Cumulo-granite.



The TV special that I saw went through the entire Bermuda Triangle myth and
offered logical explanations to all of the major stories.


I'm not sold on the idea of aliens or Atlantis or whatever - basically the
special blamed the Canadians.


Makes sense to me.


Cheers


Dave Kearton (my smiley button isn't working - but you get the idea)

Dave Kearton wrote:

"Gord Beaman" wrote in message
...
| (robert arndt) wrote:
|
| The sky was reported as distorted, not making sense
| as well as time being lost.
|
| snort Riiiight!!
| --
|
| -Gord.

(according to the program I saw...)

At that time of the year off the Florida Keys, the horizon blends easily
into the sky - similar to the sky full of snow that you'd be accustomed to.

The primary difference between the two locations would be that Florida lacks
huge quantities of Cumulo-granite.

The TV special that I saw went through the entire Bermuda Triangle myth and
offered logical explanations to all of the major stories.

I'm not sold on the idea of aliens or Atlantis or whatever - basically the
special blamed the Canadians.

Makes sense to me.

Cheers

Dave Kearton (my smiley button isn't working - but you get the idea)


Gord,

Better watch out for those huge quantities of Cumulo-granite down-east.

I would be very surprised if you have not accumulated a good many hours
in the skies of the Bermuda triangle over the years.

I seem to recall some years ago a statement, which I think originated
with the USCG, that there were actually less aircraft and marine
casualties in the Bermuda triange than other areas, it was just the
traffic density that accounted for the numbers.

Dave

"Dave Kearton"
wrote:


"Gord Beaman" wrote in message
.. .
| (robert arndt) wrote:
|
| The sky was reported as distorted, not making sense
| as well as time being lost.
|
| snort Riiiight!!
| --
|
| -Gord.


(according to the program I saw...)


At that time of the year off the Florida Keys, the horizon blends easily
into the sky - similar to the sky full of snow that you'd be accustomed to.


Snow?...what's that?...we have no snow here, it's been +5 or +6
deg here for a week or so and wasn't below +1 for a month before
that here Dave.

The primary difference between the two locations would be that Florida lacks
huge quantities of Cumulo-granite.

Not a lotta Cumulo-Granito here either, lot's of soft red earth
good for growing potatoes though.

The TV special that I saw went through the entire Bermuda Triangle myth and
offered logical explanations to all of the major stories.


I'm not sold on the idea of aliens or Atlantis or whatever - basically the
special blamed the Canadians.

Why blame us? hell the 'triangle' is ~800 miles south of us here.

Makes sense to me.


Cheers


Dave Kearton (my smiley button isn't working - but you get the idea)


Okkk...
--

-Gord.

The lost squadron was "Flight 19" and the circumstances surrounding
their disappearance has never been explained despite the above "simple
explanation". None of the aircraft nor any sign of survival gear have
ever been found. The flight leader didn't just get lost, the entire
flight lost all bearing on where they were and could not establish a
way back to base. The sky was reported as distorted, not making sense
as well as time being lost.
The above posts claims they crashed in the Triangle but they have
never been found. Some excitement was caused years back when other TBM
aircraft were discovered in the area but they were NOT Flight 19.
For more information read the book "The Disappearance of Flight 19"
(1980) by Larry Kusche (ISBN: 0060124776).
Best place to get it from: www.bookfinder.com

Rob

From: (robert arndt)

It has been satisfactorily explained several times beginning with the Navy
Court of Inquiry in 1945. Several years ago a pilot who was also in the air at
the same time and tried to communicate with Flight 19 mentioned in an interview
that at the time there was no real mystery as to what happened. Everyone
involved realized that the Flight Leader was disoriented including other
members of the flight who tried to point out that they were headed in the wrong
direction. These were Navy pilots trained to follow the orders of the flight
leader. As for no wreckage being found it is a big ocean and even 5 TBMs are
pretty small. By the time they crashed it was dark and there was a storm
raging. Prospects of surviving that ditching are pretty small. Prospects of
any wreckage being scattered to hell and gone are pretty great. Whole ships
have been lost with no more wreckage left than would fill a suitcase. The
aircraft will eventually be found where the half dozen radio fixes placed them
about 100 miles northeast of the northern corner of Florida.

The best book ever written on the subject of the Triangle is The Bermuda
Triangle Mystery: Solved; it absolutely demolishes all the cockamamie theories
with actual research with sources like the New York Times and Lloyds Shipping
Register and records of Courts of Inquiry.

John Dupre'

(JDupre5762) wrote:
The lost squadron was "Flight 19" and the circumstances
surrounding
their disappearance has never been explained
despite the above "simple
explanation". None of the aircraft nor any
sign of survival gear have
ever been found. The flight leader didn't just
get lost, the entire
flight lost all bearing on where they were
and could not establish a
way back to base. The sky was reported as distorted,
not making sense
as well as time being lost.
The above posts claims they crashed in the
Triangle but they have
never been found. Some excitement was caused
years back when other TBM
aircraft were discovered in the area but they
were NOT Flight 19.
For more information read the book "The Disappearance
of Flight 19"
(1980) by Larry Kusche (ISBN: 0060124776).
Best place to get it from: www.bookfinder.com

Rob

From: (robert arndt)

It has been satisfactorily explained several
times beginning with the Navy
Court of Inquiry in 1945. Several years ago
a pilot who was also in the air at
the same time and tried to communicate with
Flight 19 mentioned in an interview
that at the time there was no real mystery as
to what happened. Everyone
involved realized that the Flight Leader was
disoriented including other
members of the flight who tried to point out
that they were headed in the wrong
direction. These were Navy pilots trained to
follow the orders of the flight
leader. As for no wreckage being found it is
a big ocean and even 5 TBMs are
pretty small. By the time they crashed it was
dark and there was a storm
raging. Prospects of surviving that ditching
are pretty small. Prospects of
any wreckage being scattered to hell and gone
are pretty great. Whole ships
have been lost with no more wreckage left than
would fill a suitcase. The
aircraft will eventually be found where the
half dozen radio fixes placed them
about 100 miles northeast of the northern corner
of Florida.

The best book ever written on the subject of
the Triangle is The Bermuda
Triangle Mystery: Solved; it absolutely demolishes
all the cockamamie theories
with actual research with sources like the New
York Times and Lloyds Shipping
Register and records of Courts of Inquiry.

John Dupre'
Yes, but the author never interviewed anyone involved with any of the non-Flight
19 incidents; he relied on long-distance phone calls and later admitted filtering
out information from eyewitness accounts and official documents that conflicted
with his debunking-sort of like Phill Klass with UFOs: if the info or witness
contradicts your preconceptions, disregard it.

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"Mark and Kim Smith" wrote in message
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Where'd the planes come from that were shown at the beginning of the
movie? Where are they now?

And for a question not based on reality, why wasn't the desert winds
blowing them around? The aliens didn't leave them tied down or chocked.

I didn't see the movie but a director once told me there's movies and
there's real life.

Were they MILITARY aircraft?


Tex

Tex Houston wrote:
"Mark and Kim Smith" wrote in message
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Where'd the planes come from that were shown at the beginning of the
movie? Where are they now?

And for a question not based on reality, why wasn't the desert winds
blowing them around? The aliens didn't leave them tied down or chocked.

I didn't see the movie but a director once told me there's movies and
there's real life.

Were they MILITARY aircraft?

Yes, Tex, they were. Avenger torpedo bombers, representing the 5 missing
TBMs of "Flight 19" (though no sign of a Martin flying boat, which also
went "missing" while searching for the missing TBMs.). A classic
"Bermuda Triangle" moment, being blamed on aliens.

-Marc
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Marc Reeve
actual email address after removal of 4s & spaces is
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At least in the movie it was blamed on aliens. Real life, I guess we
won't know until they are found. Where the heck is that Titanic /
Yorktown guy!!

Marc Reeve wrote:

Tex Houston wrote:


"Mark and Kim Smith" wrote in message
...


Where'd the planes come from that were shown at the beginning of the
movie? Where are they now?

And for a question not based on reality, why wasn't the desert winds
blowing them around? The aliens didn't leave them tied down or chocked.


I didn't see the movie but a director once told me there's movies and
there's real life.

Were they MILITARY aircraft?



Yes, Tex, they were. Avenger torpedo bombers, representing the 5 missing
TBMs of "Flight 19" (though no sign of a Martin flying boat, which also
went "missing" while searching for the missing TBMs.). A classic
"Bermuda Triangle" moment, being blamed on aliens.

-Marc

One of Flight 19's Avengers was caught in a shrimper's net about
halfway between Key West and Marco Island about 15 years ago. look on
a map and see how lost that guy was. As for the Bermuda Triangle, I
flew 102s and 104s all over the southern part of it and am still here.
I think. Wooo - woo.
Walt BJ

WaltBJ wrote:

One of Flight 19's Avengers was caught in a shrimper's net about
halfway between Key West and Marco Island about 15 years ago. look on
a map and see how lost that guy was. As for the Bermuda Triangle, I
flew 102s and 104s all over the southern part of it and am still here.
I think. Wooo - woo.
Walt BJ

Mel Fisher and crew brought that plane up in 1987. A serial number check
showed that it was not one of the five planes lost with Flight 19.

-Marc
--
Marc Reeve
actual email address after removal of 4s & spaces is
c4m4r4a4m4a4n a4t c4r4u4z4i4o d4o4t c4o4m