Auto Fuel STC

Barnyard BOb wrote in message However, this is NOT an excuse to
use auto fuel in aircarft not suited to it.

The C-175 uses a geared Continental O-300. The valves will stick no matter
what kind of gas one chooses to use. Is this one of the types you consider
not suited for auto-gas?

D. ("aircarft"?)
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Consider this engine reasonably unsuitable for everything.


Barnyard BOb --

D. ("aircarft"?)


That is an aircraft with an auto engine and we know how BOb feels about
that.

Pardon me for buttin in, but huh?

--
Richard Lamb

Notice the appearance of "car" in the misspelled word.

You can groan now. g

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G-R-R-R-R-O-A-N.



Barnyard BOb --

On 17 Sep 2003 12:45 AM, Barnyard BOb -- posted the following:

I built most of my hours towards my commercial ticket flying a
C-175. What a POS. It was owned by the regional director of
Encyclopedia Britannica back in 1959. Certainly a fitting aircraft
for those pesky pimps peddling paper pulp. [For those too young
to remember, they were the equivalent of today's telemarketers.]

FWIW --
A fellow RV-3 owner here at 3GV also flies his dad's C-175.
On the way to Osh, it had a piston fail with less than 800 hours
since major, so he never made Osh. So.... this particular
engine continues to build a reputation only somewhat better
than the average auto engine in a plane. B-D

A friend of mine down in Homer has one and he likes it just fine. He
used to post here and bought it partly based on advice from Highflier,
who also seems to like them. My friend explained to me his theory on
why people have had trouble with the engine, which seems to make some
sense, but I don't understand all the issues involved well enough to be
comfortable explaining it here.

I'd consider the engine for my Bearhawk but I want a minimum of 200hp
for float operations, and maybe liquid cooling if possible. 8^)

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Robert Bates wrote:
: How long ago? I recently contacted him about a PA23-180 and he said he
: wasn't interested in working on any more STCs for the time being

He's probably busy laughing his way to the bank. We just put
$1600 into an autogas STC for our Cherokee 180. Doesn't seem worth it,
but there's $1-$1.5/gal difference around here so it'll pay for itself.
I can't complain too loudly, since the addition of fuel pumps, etc was
pretty much an FAA-mandated CYA from a marginal design from Piper to begin
with. So far no ill effects (unless you consider $14/hour fuel burn and
no fouled plugs "ill" effects).

-Cory


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wrote in message ...
Robert Bates wrote:
: How long ago? I recently contacted him about a PA23-180 and he said he
: wasn't interested in working on any more STCs for the time being

He's probably busy laughing his way to the bank. We just put
$1600 into an autogas STC for our Cherokee 180.

The need for a second boost pump in the Cherokees is one of the
only places where the STC isn't just paper.

"Del Rawlins" wrote in message
...

I'd consider the engine for my Bearhawk but I want a minimum of 200hp
for float operations, and maybe liquid cooling if possible. 8^)

Liquid cooling is an occupational hazard for float planes drivers. ;o)

Rich S.

On Wed, 17 Sep 2003 03:45:18 -0500, Barnyard BOb --
wrote:

FWIW --
A fellow RV-3 owner here at 3GV also flies his dad's C-175.
On the way to Osh, it had a piston fail with less than 800 hours
since major, so he never made Osh. So.... this particular
engine continues to build a reputation only somewhat better
than the average auto engine in a plane. B-D

Barnyard BOb --

On Wed, 17 Sep 2003 03:45:18 -0500, Barnyard BOb --
wrote:

FWIW --
A fellow RV-3 owner here at 3GV also flies his dad's C-175.
On the way to Osh, it had a piston fail with less than 800 hours
since major, so he never made Osh. So.... this particular
engine continues to build a reputation only somewhat better
than the average auto engine in a plane. B-D

Barnyard BOb --

Hmmmm, cept that I've never heard of an auto conversion engine eating
a piston. Doesn't mean it hasn't happened, I've just not heard of it.


Corky Scott

"Corky Scott" wrote in message
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On Wed, 17 Sep 2003 03:45:18 -0500, Barnyard BOb --
wrote:

FWIW --
A fellow RV-3 owner here at 3GV also flies his dad's C-175.
On the way to Osh, it had a piston fail with less than 800 hours
since major, so he never made Osh. So.... this particular
engine continues to build a reputation only somewhat better
than the average auto engine in a plane. B-D

Barnyard BOb --

Hmmmm, cept that I've never heard of an auto conversion engine eating
a piston. Doesn't mean it hasn't happened, I've just not heard of it.


Corky Scott

Snicker... You beat me to it!
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Jim in NC

A friend of mine down in Homer has one and he likes it just fine. He
used to post here and bought it partly based on advice from Highflier,
who also seems to like them. My friend explained to me his theory on
why people have had trouble with the engine, which seems to make some
sense, but I don't understand all the issues involved well enough to be
comfortable explaining it here.

Del Rawlins-
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I've heard enough of the "theories" and seen enough evidence
that I know that I don't need to own a C-175 unless it has an O-360
engine. The C-175 that blew the piston was being piloted by the
A&P that is intimately familiar with this plane and how to treat the
geared engine. Ditto for his dad and another long time C-175
A&P that helps with repairs, annuals and overhauls. This plane
has been "in the family" for many years, but **** still happens
with regularity. The damn thing is what it is. g

TBO by the book, when it can be made, is too short for me.


Barnyard BOb --