what's a good country for a homebuilt aircraft?

"Fred in Florida" wrote in message ...
So far, good to homebuilders: US, Canada, Australia. A bit as I expected.
Does anyone know about the conditions for homebuilders in Europe?

Lukas --

France must be pretty good, as they seem to have more homebuilts than anyone
else in Europe.

You might ask on the Emerauders group on yahoo. Claude Piel was a
prolific French designer, and a lot of his designs are flying in
Europe and the UK.

"Steve Neale" wrote in
:

The situation within EU countries is about to change with the advent
of EASA .

EASA regulations are replacing JAA recommendations. The theory is to
apply the same rules across all EU member states. This is all supposed
to start happening in the next week or so. (Ha!)

http://europa.eu.int/comm/transport/...ty/easa_en.htm

If things go the normal way they do in the EU, Europe will end up with
the French system which in this particular case should be good news
for experimentals. Knowing the way the EU do stuff though, nothing
much will change soon.

Steve in the UK


Good news, if all goes well. For me personally that's especially good news,
since I expect the whole business of financing a kit and then building it
to take long enough for the whole EU business to be finished when I'm done.

I had kinda expected France to be the best country in Europe for that,
which ain't great for me since I don't speak french well.

Lukas in the Netherlands

(Ken Sandyeggo) wrote in
om:

Lukas, you're going to determine where in the entire world you're
going to move to and live based on the homebuilt regs? Wow! You must
really want to fly. Good luck.

Ken J. - Sandy Eggo

Ken, I'm looking to relocate anyways, so I thought it might be a good to
align the final decision with flying possibilities.
But yes, I REALLY want to fly.

Only problem is that the ideal places for that involve serious immigration
possibilities for me (EU citizen).

Within the EU, relocating is not such a big deal. I'm considering
Scandinavia, UK and Ireland, Spain, Switzerland, Germany (that's where I
come from, so that would be the most boring decision).

Spain is a big favourite of mine but economically really difficult. I
imagine it could be a good country for flying but I know nothing about the
situation for homebuilders there.

Currently, Ireland and UK seem the most likely choices for me. Does anyone
know if the situation there is a lot worse for homebuilding and flying than
France? France doesn't work for me because my french sucks and I don't
really want to learn it anyway (no offense).

Lukas

Philippe Vessaire wrote in news:s84s31-sj2.ln1
@rigel.orion:

Le Vendredi 19 Septembre 2003 15:07
Lukas a écrit:



I currently live in the Netherlands and I'm looking to relocate.
I've long wanted to learn to fly and build a light (experimental
and/or ultralight) airplane and I'm wondering which countries would
be well suited for that, economically and with regards to
permits/licenses.

Consider France, you can have an official airport address for the
plane.
No technical inspection required for ultra light.
3 years between inspections if you built a plane
1 years between inspections if you by an homebuilt plane

Thanks Philippe,

I have to out myself as a total newbie he
What's the significance of having an official airport address for the
plane?
Does that mean the plane resides at the airport? Expensive?
I was kinda imagining having a trailer and a plane with removable wings.
But I have no idea which is better, or which is cheaper, or what.

To venture even further into speculation territory, I always thought that
some homebuilt pilots in places like the US actually take off and land on
their own land, but I guess that's only possible with fairly remote farms?

To add yet more speculation, I guess that in Europe that kind of thing is a
no go?

Lukas

Thanks Pete,

a long list, though I didn't see the Europa in there.
Too heavy? stall speed too high?

Lukas


Yip, both correct. I am building in the Amateur-built category, and plan on
touring across North America, as well as soar it in the mountain waves since
I am building both the short and glider wings. Fun, fun, fun!

Now back to the reality of building ;-)

Cheers,
Pete
Europa builder A239.

In Canada,folks fly from farmer's fields all the time. Around my local
airport, there are at least 7 such small strips.

This is one of the reasons that I chose the Europa mono-wheel. If the local
airport goes under and I do not wish to pay landing fees at the larger
international airport, I have a large choice of fields to fly from.

Cheers,
Pete

To venture even further into speculation territory, I always thought that
some homebuilt pilots in places like the US actually take off and land on
their own land, but I guess that's only possible with fairly remote farms?

To add yet more speculation, I guess that in Europe that kind of thing is
a
no go?

Lukas

Lukas wrote in message .6.84...

To venture even further into speculation territory, I always thought that
some homebuilt pilots in places like the US actually take off and land on
their own land, but I guess that's only possible with fairly remote farms?

Remote? Not necessarily.

According to the Class B chart for Minneapolis, Minnesota, USA
(population about three million, located on the Mississippi River),
there are about 30 private airstrips within a 30nm radius of
Minneapolis / St. Paul International. There are also two towered
(class D airspace) reliever airports and two uncontrolled airports
within that radius. A number of the private airports are seaplane
bases - Minnesota has a LOT of lakes.

I visited last week with a fellow who flies out of a private grass
strip he shares with several other folks. It's two miles outside of
the town he lives in, which itself is a 30-minute country drive from
the outer ring-road around the Minneapolis / St. Paul metro. Some
people who live there commute to work in Minneapolis, about an hour
each way in traffic. I know folks in Los Angeles with longer
commutes.

Those airports are all within the 30-nm "mode C veil" around major US
airports, so if the airplane was certified with an electrical system
it has to have a transponder that reports altitude. Something like a
Piper Cub, FlyBaby, Volksplane, Air Camper, etc. can get away without
it.

There's even a good German restaurant in Minneapolis! :-)

Corrie

On Fri, 19 Sep 2003 17:16:33 GMT, "Fred in Florida"
wrote:



Very interesting, the 1200lbs. category. In US regulations, I recall a
maximum speed in level flight for Ultralights, which was pretty low (don't
recall the precise figure, something like 60mph), but I might be mixing
something up there.
Do you know if the Canadian "advanced ultralight" category has a speed
limit?

So far, good to homebuilders: US, Canada, Australia. A bit as I expected.
Does anyone know about the conditions for homebuilders in Europe?

Lukas --

France must be pretty good, as they seem to have more homebuilts than anyone
else in Europe.

Fred in Florida

Hello,

There are a lot of designs from France, but regulations and the cost
of flying are overwhelming, unless you choose ultralights. Still,
you'll pay as much over there for a litre than you'd pay in the US for
a gallon!

Gil.
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