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![]() Cub Driver wrote: Ford Yes ( in an impersonal way ) He was shot at by Squeaky From. That was pretty personal. all the best -- Dan Ford email: see the Warbird's Forum at www.warbirdforum.com and the Piper Cub Forum at www.pipercubforum.com Personal and very scary, but not military. I did remember that one ( and some others ). Bob |
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![]() Jack Linthicum wrote: Bob McKellar wrote in message ... Compiling the list just for fun. Starting with WWII era, "shot at" limited to military situations FDR No Truman Sorta yes, but I will say No You are wrong. I certainly am. thanks for theinfo/correction! Bob |
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![]() "Bob McKellar" wrote in message ... Cub Driver wrote: Ford Yes ( in an impersonal way ) He was shot at by Squeaky From. That was pretty personal. all the best -- Dan Ford email: see the Warbird's Forum at www.warbirdforum.com and the Piper Cub Forum at www.pipercubforum.com Personal and very scary, but not military. I did remember that one ( and some others ). When is the CinC not Military? |
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![]() wrote in message ... Compiling the list just for fun. (Snipped alot of interesting stuff) Service academy graduates 0 yes 2 no Army/AF vets 0 yes 4 no Navy 4 yes 2 no Conclusions: Damfino Maybe there isn't a real pattern. Bob McKellar Service Academy graduates, don't you mean 2 yes (President Eisenhower - West Point & President Carter - USNA) And I don't understand your VETs info. Just to confirm; Navy- Presidents, Kennedy, Johnson, Nixon, Ford, Carter, George Bush Army - Presidents, Truman (NG), Eisenhower, Reagan (R) AF - President, GW Bush (NG) * NG & R represent original service, were Presidents Bush, Kennedy, and Johnson USN or USNR? Kinda have a reference for the USNR, being one myself. We're prob saying the same I'm just missing it. Also interesting; Branches; Army; Infantry - Eisenhower Cavalry - Reagan (then PAO) Artillery (Red Leg) - Truman Navy; Aviator - Bush Surface - Ford, Kennedy (originally INTEL) Submariner - Carter Supply - Nixon Air Force; Pilot (Fighter) - GW Bush Pretty broad range of communities. Anybody know what LBJs designator was? v/r Ward |
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Cub Driver wrote:
: :Ford Yes ( in an impersonal way ) : :He was shot at by Squeaky From. That was pretty personal. Well, no, he wasn't. He was AIMED AT by Squeaky Fromme. The gun was not loaded. -- "Rule Number One for Slayers - Don't die." -- Buffy, the Vampire Slayer |
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"Tarver Engineering" wrote:
:"Bob McKellar" wrote in message ... : : Personal and very scary, but not military. I did remember : that one ( and some others ). : :When is the CinC not Military? When you're talking about the United States. -- "Some people get lost in thought because it's such unfamiliar territory." --G. Behn |
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![]() "Ward C. Douglas" wrote: wrote in message ... Compiling the list just for fun. (Snipped alot of interesting stuff) Service academy graduates 0 yes 2 no Army/AF vets 0 yes 4 no Navy 4 yes 2 no Conclusions: Damfino Maybe there isn't a real pattern. Bob McKellar Service Academy graduates, don't you mean 2 yes (President Eisenhower - West Point & President Carter - USNA) And I don't understand your VETs info. Just to confirm; Navy- Presidents, Kennedy, Johnson, Nixon, Ford, Carter, George Bush Army - Presidents, Truman (NG), Eisenhower, Reagan (R) AF - President, GW Bush (NG) * NG & R represent original service, were Presidents Bush, Kennedy, and Johnson USN or USNR? Kinda have a reference for the USNR, being one myself. We're prob saying the same I'm just missing it. Also interesting; Branches; Army; Infantry - Eisenhower Cavalry - Reagan (then PAO) Artillery (Red Leg) - Truman Navy; Aviator - Bush Surface - Ford, Kennedy (originally INTEL) Submariner - Carter Supply - Nixon Air Force; Pilot (Fighter) - GW Bush Pretty broad range of communities. Anybody know what LBJs designator was? v/r Ward The yes and no referred to getting shot at. I found it interesting that neither of the two academy guys ever got shot at. I don't think it particularly means anything, but it is interesting. Johnson got a direct commission while a congressman. He was riding in a plane that was attacked. His "mission" was bogus, the decorations for it were bogus, but the bullets were apparently real. BTW, most posts around here with the slightest tinge of politics begin with a conclusion and work backwards for evidence. This one was actually done without any predisposition, motivated principally by beer and boredom last night. Bob |
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Bob McKellar wrote in message ...
Compiling the list just for fun. Starting with WWII era, "shot at" limited to military situations Continuing to the WWII era. Prez. Shot at Major military Action Washington Yes Yes Adams No Yes Jefferson No Yes Madison No Yes Monroe Yes No J.Q. Adams No No Jackson Yes Yes Van Buren No (I think) Yes (he inherited Jacksons Seminole War) W.H. Harrison Yes No (see Taylor) Tyler No (AFAIK) No Polk No Yes Taylor Yes No (didn't have much of a chance) Filmore No (AFAIK) No Pierce No (AFAIK) No Buchanan No No Lincoln No? Yes (Not sure if so Sac took a potshot at him or not) Johnson No (AFAIK) Yes (kinda) Grant Yes Yes (see below) Hayes Yes No (depending on if one counts the Plains wars) Garfield Yes No Arthur Yes [?] No (I think served in the ACW) Cleveland I&II No (AFAIK) No Harrison Not sure No McKinley Yes Yes T. Rooselvelt Yes Yes Taft No No (he was in PI during the Insurrection) Wilson No Yes Harding No No Coolidge No (AFAIK) No Hoover Yes No (was a civlian but took an active part in the defense of the siege of Tientsen during the Boxer Rebellion) 12 Yea 16 Nay 1 IDK 5 (or 6) Yea w/war 7 Yea w/o war 7 (or 8) Nay w/war A couple of those were inherited, but for the most part, I think it depends upon events of the moment more than actual prior service (or having "seen the elephant"). -- Regards, Michael P. Reed |
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Good stuff;
Notes; John Adams, was quite embarrassed about his lack of "uniformed" military experience. He, on several occasions during the Revolution, asked to leave Congress and serve in the militia. The Massachusetts Bay government, and especially Sam Adams always told him to keep doing what he was best at, in Congress. v/r Ward -- Ward C. Douglas "A good economy is not worth a Constitution" (E) wcdouglasATmindspringDOTcom (URL) http://wcdouglas.home.mindspring.com/index.htm |
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Bob;
Your right about the posts. I'd be interested to see if Johnson was a GURL. v/r Ward -- Ward C. Douglas "A good economy is not worth a Constitution" (E) wcdouglasATmindspringDOTcom (URL) http://wcdouglas.home.mindspring.com/index.htm |
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