Obama/Marx

Orval Fairbairn wrote:
Here is a link to the Obama/Marx story (and it is pretty damning):

http://www.canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/2289

Several points:

(0) Nothing about this is aviation related.

(1) The article was originally published by an organization called AIM:
http://www.aim.org/aim-column/obamas-communist-mentor/

(2) The article claims that "The record shows that Obama was in Hawaii
from 1971-1979, where, at some point in time, he developed a close
relationship, almost like a son, with Davis, listening to his
"poetry"...." But Obama was born in 1961 in Hawaii. He was in fifth
grade in 1971 and graduated high school in 1979. He was living with his
maternal grandparents at the time.

(3) The article says more about things that happened _prior_ to Obama's
birth than about Obama's actual _positions_ (e.g. events in 1939(!),
1951(!), the fifties, etc.) Obama's actual legislative impact as a
senator is openly available and it seems to be only moderately left of
the middle (e.g. Obama supported legislation which would provide
incentives for creation of coal-to-liquid fuel plants to help reduce
dependence on foreign oil[1]; on the other hand has called for universal
health care[2]).

(4) The author of the article, Cliff Kincaid, is alleged to have made
false claims in the past, as claimed he
http://mediamatters.org/items/200512100001

[1] http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...010901503.html
Obama spokesman: "Illinois basin coal has more untapped
energy potential than the oil reserves of Saudi Arabia and Kuwait
combined. Senator Obama believes it is crucial that we invest in
technologies to use these resources to reduce our dependence on foreign
oil."

[2] http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/p...ealthcare.html

Maxwell luv2^fly99@live.^com wrote in
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In article , Bertie the
Bunyip says...

Benjamin Dover wrote in
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Orval Fairbairn wrote in
news_r_fairbairn-
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Here is a link to the Obama/Marx story (and it is pretty damning):

http://www.canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/2289


Isn't it amazing that the only bulwarks of Communism and Marxism
left today are Cuba and the Democratic Party of the United States.
Even "Communist" China is more capitalist today than Obama,
Hillary, and the DNC.



Well, that just isn't true in so many ways it's ridiculous.

I'm not a fan of either Hilary or Obama, but they,re defintiely
capitalists in every sense of the word.
And the second part of that statement is complete crap as well. There
are many many very socailist, and very wealthy socialist countries,
BTW whose policies even the most liberal democrat would steer well to
the right of.

This country has forgotten what 'conservative' means.

I agree.Your post proves that perfectly.

Dubya is a liberal wimp.

Except in comparison to the thinly disguised socialists of the
Dimocraptic party.




Yeah, god forbid the elderly, the sick and the weak shold be looked
after.

Nothing personal, BTW.

Bertie

Orval Fairbairn wrote in news_r_fairbairn-
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"Dan Luke" wrote:

"Orval Fairbairn" wrote:

Here is a link to the Obama/Marx story (and it is pretty damning)

Old fashioned Red-scare paranoia.

Ludicrous.

Dan, have some more Kool Aid!


Have you checked to see what's in it?


Bertie

"Orval Fairbairn" wrote:


Here is a link to the Obama/Marx story (and it is pretty damning)

Old fashioned Red-scare paranoia.

Ludicrous.

Dan, have some more Kool Aid!

Not the kind you're drinking; it's psychedelic.

On Wed, 25 Jun 2008 12:58:54 -0500, Jim Logajan
wrote in :

(4) The author of the article, Cliff Kincaid, is alleged to have made
false claims in the past, as claimed he
http://mediamatters.org/items/200512100001

Wow! That's about what I suspected.

The Swift Boaters are a busy lot: http://mediamatters.org/index

On Wed, 25 Jun 2008 18:01:40 +0000 (UTC), Bertie the Bunyip
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In article ,
Larry Dighera wrote:

On Wed, 25 Jun 2008 12:58:54 -0500, Jim Logajan
wrote in :

(4) The author of the article, Cliff Kincaid, is alleged to have made
false claims in the past, as claimed he
http://mediamatters.org/items/200512100001

Wow! That's about what I suspected.

The Swift Boaters are a busy lot: http://mediamatters.org/index

If you don't like erase the message, kill the messenger!

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Remove _'s from email address to talk to me.

Orval Fairbairn wrote:
In article ,
Larry Dighera wrote:

On Wed, 25 Jun 2008 12:58:54 -0500, Jim Logajan
wrote in :

(4) The author of the article, Cliff Kincaid, is alleged to have made
false claims in the past, as claimed he
http://mediamatters.org/items/200512100001

Wow! That's about what I suspected.

The Swift Boaters are a busy lot: http://mediamatters.org/index

If you don't like erase the message, kill the messenger!

Eh? I have no intention of voting for Obama - but not because I believe he
is a Marxist, which he does not appear to be by my understanding of the
definition of that term. I will be voting Libertarian. (I'm guessing if
Obama were elected his policies would be similar to those of the Clinton
administration.)

The message from the messenger you quoted didn't prove a thing re Obama
being a Marxist. Sorry.