The price of av gas

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"Bertie the Bunyip" wrote in message
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"GMOD10X" wrote in message
news The price of av gas

Is up over 70 percent SINCE Harry and Nancy and the Democrats took
control of Congress

Who's fault?
George?
Nancy and Harry??
Both??

Fuel prices are up across the globe, I think you need to lower
demand or increase supply, nothing short of one of those will fix
the problem.




Or come up with an alternative fuel..

or form of locomotion!


Bertie

Instead of rebate checks from the goobermint we will give roller
blades to all!

I can see the headline one week later, "Wrist Injuries Up 10,000%".



Won;'t catch me on those things!

I want the Count de Saint Germain's water engine.


Bertie

on 7/1/2008 1:54 PM Darkwing said the following:
"Bertie the Bunyip" wrote in message
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"Darkwing" theducksmail"AT"yahoo.com wrote in
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"GMOD10X" wrote in message
news The price of av gas

Is up over 70 percent SINCE Harry and Nancy and the Democrats took
control of Congress

Who's fault?
George?
Nancy and Harry??
Both??
Fuel prices are up across the globe, I think you need to lower demand
or increase supply, nothing short of one of those will fix the
problem.



Or come up with an alternative fuel..

or form of locomotion!


Bertie

Instead of rebate checks from the goobermint we will give roller blades to
all!

I can see the headline one week later, "Wrist Injuries Up 10,000%".

Which turns the subject back to Anthony again.

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Bertie the Bunyip wrote:

"Darkwing" theducksmail"AT"yahoo.com wrote in
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"GMOD10X" wrote in message
news
The price of av gas

Is up over 70 percent SINCE Harry and Nancy and the Democrats took
control of Congress

Who's fault?
George?
Nancy and Harry??
Both??

Fuel prices are up across the globe, I think you need to lower demand
or increase supply, nothing short of one of those will fix the
problem.




Or come up with an alternative fuel..

or form of locomotion!


Controlled fusion, antigravity, zero point energy, naqueda (a-la
Stargate)

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Remove _'s from email address to talk to me.

Orval Fairbairn wrote in
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In article ,
Bertie the Bunyip wrote:

"Darkwing" theducksmail"AT"yahoo.com wrote in
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"GMOD10X" wrote in message
news The price of av gas

Is up over 70 percent SINCE Harry and Nancy and the Democrats took
control of Congress

Who's fault?
George?
Nancy and Harry??
Both??

Fuel prices are up across the globe, I think you need to lower
demand
or increase supply, nothing short of one of those will fix the
problem.




Or come up with an alternative fuel..

or form of locomotion!


Controlled fusion, antigravity, zero point energy, naqueda (a-la
Stargate)


Nice , but they're all hundreds of years in the future...


Bertie

In article ,
Bertie the Bunyip wrote:

Orval Fairbairn wrote in
news
In article ,
Bertie the Bunyip wrote:

"Darkwing" theducksmail"AT"yahoo.com wrote in
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"GMOD10X" wrote in message
news The price of av gas

Is up over 70 percent SINCE Harry and Nancy and the Democrats took
control of Congress

Who's fault?
George?
Nancy and Harry??
Both??

Fuel prices are up across the globe, I think you need to lower
demand
or increase supply, nothing short of one of those will fix the
problem.




Or come up with an alternative fuel..

or form of locomotion!


Controlled fusion, antigravity, zero point energy, naqueda (a-la
Stargate)


Nice , but they're all hundreds of years in the future...


Exactly my point! The Eco-Nazis are particularly fond of touting all of
those pie-in-the-sky ideas in order to prevent implementing useful
solutions.

Currently, the only viable solutions are nuclear electric power, more
oil and gas, coal-to-hydrocarbon conversions. The technology is there --
it becomes economic at the current price for oil.

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Remove _'s from email address to talk to me.

On Jul 1, 2:42*pm, "Darkwing" theducksmail"AT"yahoo.com wrote:
"GMOD10X" wrote in message

news
The price of av gas

Is up over 70 percent SINCE Harry and Nancy and the Democrats took control
of Congress

it is, but the causes were put into place well before that, by Bush
and the Republicans. Starting wars in oil producing regions -- not
good for gas prices. also... well see below.


Fuel prices are up across the globe, I think you need to lower demand or
increase supply, nothing short of one of those will fix the problem.

Fuel prices are up across the globe but we in this country are getting
bigger increases than most. Consider that while the price of a barrel
of oil has quadrupled since 2000 in dollars, it's "only" doubled in
Euros. The weak dollar is killing us and is responsible for at least
$1 a gallon of the price run-up. and the weak dollar is caused by:
tax-cut and war driven deficits and interest rate cuts trying to save
the doomed housing market, including the holders of all those toxic
waste CDOs.

On Jul 2, 12:49*pm, xyzzy wrote:
On Jul 1, 2:42*pm, "Darkwing" theducksmail"AT"yahoo.com wrote:

"GMOD10X" wrote in message

news

The price of av gas

Is up over 70 percent SINCE Harry and Nancy and the Democrats took control
of Congress

it is, but the causes were put into place well before that, by Bush
and the Republicans. *Starting wars in oil producing regions -- not
good for gas prices. also... well see below.

Fuel prices are up across the globe, I think you need to lower demand or
increase supply, nothing short of one of those will fix the problem.

Fuel prices are up across the globe but we in this country are getting
bigger increases than most. *Consider that while the price of a barrel
of oil has quadrupled since 2000 in dollars, it's "only" doubled in
Euros. *The weak dollar is killing us and is responsible for at least
$1 a gallon of the price run-up. and the weak dollar is *caused by:
tax-cut and war driven deficits and interest rate cuts trying to save
the doomed housing market, including the holders of all those toxic
waste CDOs.

More the effect of the weak dollar on the price of gas (this is for
Mogas, because I don't have the similar information for how much of
the price of gallon of avgas is crude oil):

Since 2000, the price of a barrel is up by a factor of 4.7 in
dollars. But it's "only" up by a factor of 2.4 in Euros.

barrel of oil in 2000: $30, EUR 36.5 (ahh, yes the days of responsible
fiscal policies in America)
barrel of oil today: $142, EUR 88.75

Had the dollar maintained only parity with the Euro, a barrel of oil
would be less than $90 and gasoline (based on U.S. Dept of energy
estimate that crude oil is 75% of the price of gas) would be $2.60 a
gallon today.

Thanks Bush and Bernake.

(show my work:

current price of gas 4.05 *.75 = 3.0375 for crude component of today's
gas price.
If dollar had parity with Euro, crude oil component would be 2.9565
*(88.75/142) = 1.898
divide that by .75 and you get $2.60

Oh, source for 75% number: http://tonto.eia.doe.gov/oog/info/gdu/gasdiesel.asp)

"xyzzy" wrote in message
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On Jul 1, 2:42 pm, "Darkwing" theducksmail"AT"yahoo.com wrote:
"GMOD10X" wrote in message

news
The price of av gas

Is up over 70 percent SINCE Harry and Nancy and the Democrats took
control
of Congress

it is, but the causes were put into place well before that, by Bush
and the Republicans. Starting wars in oil producing regions -- not
good for gas prices. also... well see below.


The price of gas is a tax because of the financial mess this country is in.
Click and watch the link I posted above.
There are a lot of other fuels. We have enough CNG for 200 plus years.
We have enough oil in alaska to bring gas back to 1.50.

"aluckyguess" wrote in message
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"xyzzy" wrote in message
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On Jul 1, 2:42 pm, "Darkwing" theducksmail"AT"yahoo.com wrote:
"GMOD10X" wrote in message

news
The price of av gas

Is up over 70 percent SINCE Harry and Nancy and the Democrats took
control
of Congress

it is, but the causes were put into place well before that, by Bush
and the Republicans. Starting wars in oil producing regions -- not
good for gas prices. also... well see below.


The price of gas is a tax because of the financial mess this country is
in.
Click and watch the link I posted above.
There are a lot of other fuels. We have enough CNG for 200 plus years.
We have enough oil in alaska to bring gas back to 1.50.

The video is a snake-oil salesman who makes his living off people who are
stupid and naive enough to buy his books and pay to hear him speak. His
claim is that as a volunteer pastor who traveled to the North Slope of
Alaska to preach the gospel, he was given insider information regarding the
proven oil reserves in Alaska that runs completely contrary to everything
anyone else has been told. The only problem is every geologist on the
planet disagrees with him and not one other person has validated his story
despite the fact that he's been telling it since the early 80's.

So if you truly believe him, I have exclusive rights to sell the Brooklin
Bridge and I'm going to let it go on the cheap. We need to do business.

aluckyguess wrote:

There are a lot of other fuels. We have enough CNG for 200 plus years.
Can't put CNG in an airplane. Not too convenient for cars / trucks
either (but do-able). Want to see the price of NG run up something
crazy -- start doing this.
We have enough oil in alaska to bring gas back to 1.50.
Absolutely false. We have enough in alaska to make almost no
perceptible difference in price should we engage in a full-court press
to get it.



It's supply and demand. Specifically, the short-run (in) elasticity of
supply and demand. I think the long-run elasticity of both will
surprise most everybody -- meaning that oil prices are going to go down
way more than most expect. In my opinion, this will happen over t+2 to
t+5 years from now. But that's just my opinion.

Oh yeah, commentary in this thread about the dollar and its impact is
compounding the issue. Speculators are not. Just my $145.

T