Rumsfeld and flying

Ed Rasimus wrote:

On 05 Mar 2004 22:58:52 GMT, (Rojo2G) wrote:

I have heard Rumsfeld (yes, that guy) was a Navy pilot. What did he fly and
when was it?
Thanks

Why is Google so difficult?

http://www.defenselink.mil/bios/rumsfeld.html
http://www.rotten.com/library/bio/usa/donald-rumsfeld/
http://www.ustdrc.gov/members/rumsfeld.html

Ed Rasimus
Fighter Pilot (USAF-Ret)
"When Thunder Rolled"
Smithsonian Institution Press
ISBN #1-58834-103-8

None of which say what he flew. Fortunately, googling the NGs is more useful:

From: Yofuri )
Subject: Sec. Rumsfeld - a Navy pilot?
Newsgroups: rec.aviation.military.naval
Date: 2003-04-12 10:30:13 PST


S2F Stoofs

"dano" wrote in message
...
http://www.defenselink.mil/bios/rumsfeld.html

Someone pointed out that Sec. Rumsfeld served 3 years as a Navy pilot. I
searched for a good 10 minutes (a week in internet years) and could not find
out what aircraft he flew.

Anyone have better search skills than me or otherwise know?

He served AD from 54-57.

Dano

No kidding? I dont picture Rummy as an ASW type. Must not have liked it if he
was only on the job for three years. To each his own, I guess.

v/r
Gordon
====(A+C====
USN SAR

Donate your memories - write a note on the back and send your old photos to a
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"Krztalizer" wrote in message
...
No kidding? I dont picture Rummy as an ASW type. Must not have liked it if
he
was only on the job for three years. To each his own, I guess.

I think I read somewhere that he was an IP. Maybe the reason he checked out
after so short a period of time was that he felt that he had used up all of his
luck teaching the dummies to fly that bird. Anybody ever think to ask him?

George Z.

I think I read somewhere that he was an IP. Maybe the reason he checked out
after so short a period of time was that he felt that he had used up all of
his
luck teaching the dummies to fly that bird. Anybody ever think to ask him?

From the guys ahead of me in VS-31, the Stoof was pretty docile in comparison
to most carrier borne a/c.

/sea story mode/on

Now, this is no ****. (cof) My first skipper was tripped up by old habit on
his first Viking cruise - got a soft cat and immediately reached up to slap the
throttles (in the S-2, they are over your head, in the S-3, they're down
between the seats) and sent out the refueling prode instead. Once they got
over the soft cat, everyone pretty much died laughing at his little faux pas.

I would imagine to anyone that ever dreamed of Wings of Gold®, assignment to a
Stoof RAG, flying uncounted patterns with youngsters struggling through FAM-3
flights, it might be an easier to walk away than if Rumsfeld's career had led
him elsewhere.

v/r
Gordon
====(A+C====
USN SAR

Donate your memories - write a note on the back and send your old photos to a
reputable museum, don't take them with you when you're gone.

Subject: Rumsfeld and flying
From: "George Z. Bush" am
Date: 3/5/04 10:00 PM Pacific Standard Time
Message-id:


"Krztalizer" wrote in message
...
No kidding? I dont picture Rummy as an ASW type. Must not have liked it
if
he
was only on the job for three years. To each his own, I guess.

I think I read somewhere that he was an IP. Maybe the reason he checked out
after so short a period of time was that he felt that he had used up all of
his
luck teaching the dummies to fly that bird.
George Z.

Checked out after he felt his luck had run out? I didn't think you could do
that. Wish I had known. (grin)

,



Arthur Kramer
344th BG 494th BS
England, France, Belgium, Holland, Germany
Visit my WW II B-26 website at:
http://www.coastcomp.com/artkramer

"ArtKramr" wrote in message
...
Subject: Rumsfeld and flying
From: "George Z. Bush" am
Date: 3/5/04 10:00 PM Pacific Standard Time
Message-id:


"Krztalizer" wrote in message
...
No kidding? I dont picture Rummy as an ASW type. Must not have liked
it
if
he
was only on the job for three years. To each his own, I guess.

I think I read somewhere that he was an IP. Maybe the reason he checked
out
after so short a period of time was that he felt that he had used up all
of
his
luck teaching the dummies to fly that bird.
George Z.

Checked out after he felt his luck had run out? I didn't think you could
do
that. Wish I had known. (grin)

No, checked out after his active duty obligation ran out--wasn't Rumsfeld on
active duty longer than *you* were, Art? And unlike you, didn't he continue
to serve as a USNR officer for many more years after his active duty hitch
was over?

Brooks


,



Arthur Kramer
344th BG 494th BS
England, France, Belgium, Holland, Germany
Visit my WW II B-26 website at:
http://www.coastcomp.com/artkramer

On Sat, 6 Mar 2004 01:00:38 -0500, "George Z. Bush"
wrote:


"Krztalizer" wrote in message
...
No kidding? I dont picture Rummy as an ASW type. Must not have liked it if
he
was only on the job for three years. To each his own, I guess.

I think I read somewhere that he was an IP. Maybe the reason he checked out
after so short a period of time was that he felt that he had used up all of his
luck teaching the dummies to fly that bird. Anybody ever think to ask him?

George Z.


You might not have read the full bios. While he spent three years on
active duty, he then spent a full military career continuing to fly in
the Naval Reserves until retiring with the rank of Captain (O-6).


Ed Rasimus
Fighter Pilot (USAF-Ret)
"When Thunder Rolled"
Smithsonian Institution Press
ISBN #1-58834-103-8

Subject: Rumsfeld and flying
From: Ed Rasimus
Date: 3/6/04 7:54 AM Pacific Standard Time
Message-id:

On Sat, 6 Mar 2004 01:00:38 -0500, "George Z. Bush"
wrote:


"Krztalizer" wrote in message
...
No kidding? I dont picture Rummy as an ASW type. Must not have liked it
if
he
was only on the job for three years. To each his own, I guess.

I think I read somewhere that he was an IP. Maybe the reason he checked out
after so short a period of time was that he felt that he had used up all of
his
luck teaching the dummies to fly that bird. Anybody ever think to ask him?

George Z.


You might not have read the full bios. While he spent three years on
active duty, he then spent a full military career continuing to fly in
the Naval Reserves until retiring with the rank of Captain (O-6).


Ed Rasimus
Fighter Pilot (USAF-Ret)
"When Thunder Rolled"
Smithsonian Institution Press
ISBN #1-58834-103-8


Any missions?


Arthur Kramer
344th BG 494th BS
England, France, Belgium, Holland, Germany
Visit my WW II B-26 website at:
http://www.coastcomp.com/artkramer

Ed Rasimus wrote:
On Sat, 6 Mar 2004 01:00:38 -0500, "George Z. Bush"
wrote:


"Krztalizer" wrote in message
...
No kidding? I dont picture Rummy as an ASW type. Must not have liked it
if he was only on the job for three years. To each his own, I guess.

I think I read somewhere that he was an IP. Maybe the reason he checked out
after so short a period of time was that he felt that he had used up all of
his luck teaching the dummies to fly that bird. Anybody ever think to ask
him?

George Z.


You might not have read the full bios. While he spent three years on
active duty, he then spent a full military career continuing to fly in
the Naval Reserves until retiring with the rank of Captain (O-6).


Ed Rasimus

I was aware that he had stayed in and retired as an O-6. I guess you didn't
notice that the lump in my cheek was caused by my tongue rather than a case of
the mumps. Maybe I should have included my homemade smiley sign to signify that
I didn't want my comments taken too seriously. (^-^)))

BTW, since you brought it up, don't you ever wonder how he got through the
entire Viet Nam War without any active service during it, considering how much
of a warrior he turned out to be as a civilian? Most of the rest of us who
wanted to do our bit in uniform found ways to make it happen.

George Z.

You might not have read the full bios. While he spent three years on
active duty, he then spent a full military career continuing to fly in
the Naval Reserves until retiring with the rank of Captain (O-6).


Thanks for filling me in, Ed. Did it say what else he flew? Just curious.

v/r
Gordon
====(A+C====
USN SAR

Donate your memories - write a note on the back and send your old photos to a
reputable museum, don't take them with you when you're gone.