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The impression that the super pilots with full time organized ground
crews and $90k+ ships makes going to a contest with a older generation glider say a HP-11 with ~36:1 glide rather futile and would perhaps feel like a 2nd class pilot showing up with such a craft amoungst all the expensive glass. I hear you - until recently I primarily flew a Russia AC-4 and had those same concerns. But you know what? An AC-4 took third place in a Regionals last year - in a ship with a 31:1 glide-ratio! I've seen snobbery among a few high-dollar glider folks, but so far they've been a tiny minority - and you deal with those folks in all sports... (don't get me started about my auto-racing experiences along those lines!) I think another good idea for first timers would be to have an optional pre-contest orientation weekend where perhaps a month before the contest you could go to the site with a number of others and fly the area to get the lay of the land for us first timers. I believe pretty much every Regional has at least 1 or 2 practice days prior to the competition. Radio comms are allowed on the practice days so you should be able to acquire the knowledge you want and learn from the other pilots at the same time. There will always be some "home-field advantage", but at least you won't be flying the first day / task "blind". they should just have a firstimers class with detailed explanations of what to expect, what not to do, where not to go and how to prepare for that particular site. Show us where the house thermal are. Some clubs do a yearly XC flying seminar and pair new pilots with experienced pilots (often ones with race experience) - then send them out on a moderate XC task. Having done one of those, I can say its invaluable - even if its not strictly at a race. Also, there's nothing stopping you from asking a local XC pilot to team-fly with you some day. Sit down at the beginning of the day and pick a challenging- but-achievable set of waypoints and then go fly! Last year I flew XC and picked my path / waypoints by looking for good clouds and scenic terrain. This summer, after doing a little team- flying with experienced pilots, I developed a different approach. I would decide on a couple of waypoints (or a specific direction of flight) in the morning after studying the weather, and then I spent my flight trying to hit those waypoints - or fly as far as I could in the direction I picked prior to takeoff. I feel that having a defined goal really sharpened my skills and will make me pretty comfortable with an assigned task by the time I get to my first competition. Also, since you can view charts online and customize Google Maps, you should be able to talk to local pilots ahead of time and learn some of the house thermals and "gotcha" areas. For example, here's a Google Map that our local club near Seattle has marked up (check out all the marked points and shaded areas you can click on for detailed info): http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?hl=en...,0.946198&z=10 equipment in older gliders. Perhaps allowing a PDA with GPS, or even a simple hand held GPS unit to substitude as a turnpoint recorder would help in this area. This is allowed now in sports regionals. Wow, really? That's awesome! I have a logger but allowing PDA or GPS sources will probably enable me to convince 2 or maybe 3 extra pilots to come to the Regionals in Ephrata next year! They wanna try a competition, but don't wanna spend the $$ on loggers or other fancy equipment that they don't need for their normal weekend flying. Ahh, a little bit of knowledge goes a long way! --Noel |
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Noel,
Thanks for posting the map, but not for the reasons you think! My Mom lived in Oak Harbor, and I made the drive up I-5 from Seattle many times before her death a few years ago. At the time I wasn't a glider guider, so I just admired the pretty countryside to the east without really wondering what it was about it that drew me in. Now, seeing your map in my fourth year of flying, I know why I was attracted! Have fun, fly safe! -John On Sep 30, 3:39 pm, "noel.wade" wrote: http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?hl=en...a=0&msid=11080... --Noel |
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![]() These barriers are removed. You're out of excuses. Hope to see you next year! John Cochrane BB Wow, that is really good information and straightened me out on a lot of things that I simply did not know. Looks like I really don't have any excuses and it sounds like fun. I also just read about the local sport regionals at Warner Springs and found there were 7 newbies attending that contest and its only 40 miles from home. I'll make a plan to attend some regionals next year, and brush up on my skills in preperation in the mean time. I have one more question. Do pilots typically carry oxygen at these events? I imagine since going fast is the objective most will not thermal up to cloud base (out west) when they could be racing along with shorter climbs? Kirk: What book by Moffat? Is there just one? Does the SSA site have the Sport Regional rules on PDA/GPS, or is that specific to each regional contest? Ray |
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![]() I will soon be able to scout out my contest areas myself as I recently bought a Grob 109 motor glider. That will come in real handy for getting the lay of the land and testing the area for lift in advance of any contest and it also has the range (500mi) to get me there by air. Guess you will be seeing me in my HP-11 at a constest next year. Ray |
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On Oct 1, 11:29*am, jb92563 wrote:
Guess you will be seeing me in my HP-11 at a constest next year. That's cool... I used to race an HP-18. Had a lot of Sports Class fun with that. Sports regional rules permit PDA based loggers. Get with an experienced competition pilot and get some dual time on tasks, logs, log analysis. Practice all this way ahead of time. Most common technical problems during contests are GPS/logger related and they can really spoil a contest! Make your mistakes at the home field and be ahead of the game and ready to concentrate on flying at the contest. Also Moffatt -- _Winning II_ -- get it from Knauff and Grove. Excellent. -Evan Ludeman / T8 |
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On Oct 1, 9:24*am, jb92563 wrote:
Do pilots typically carry oxygen at these events? What book by Moffat? Is there just one? Does the SSA site have the Sport Regional rules on PDA/GPS, or is that specific to each regional contest? Ray In the west O2 is used often. Higher usually mean faster, not in all cases, but most. Many reasons too numerous to list here. Higher gives a greater range to find stronger thermals and higher is thinner air so you are flying faster. Moffat's books either "Winning on the Wind" or Winning II (basically "Winning on the Wind' with additions). Good books to read. Many others as well, but you don't need to get to complex to start. There is the teachable moment and some will come after your first few contests. Both the SSA site under racing and the SRA site are helpful. http://www.sailplane-racing.org/ Best thing is to go out ot your local site and visit with some of the pilots that race. They can be very helpful on getting you ready for your fist contest. Just remember it is addictive. You may have to attend Sailplane Racing Anonymous. As I tell people I'm addicted to "White Powder and Speed". That smell of gel coat and epoxy when you open the trailer is intoxicating. Good luck |
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Do pilots typically carry oxygen at these events?
If you're going to fly xc at any site that allows you to get over 10,000', oxygen is a must. Forget about speed, as a beginner you're going to want to be at the top of the thermals because you don't want to think about landing out. Planning to bail out of thermals below the top for 02 reasons sets you up for a needless mountain of stress. The mountain high system is great, and the small ones are easy to install. Yeah the FAA says you can go higher, but you want to make good decisions in stressful situations. I set mine to go on at 5000' after seeing at Tonopah that my o2 saturation was 95 % and heartbeat 10 beats above normal while sitting on the runway. John Cochrane BB |
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