F-35, not F-22, to Protect U.S. Airspace

hcobb wrote in news:da77e6cd-ee43-4fcb-8644-
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[snip]

Now if Europe fails to back President Neo against terrorist states and
so forces America to take action to take out the danger (that is even
more acute for Europe simply because they don't got no Atlantic moat
for the limited protection that offers in a global world), then the
blame for the hundreds, thousands or millions of lives to be lost does
not fall on America.

And of course the Eurabians including Il Dottore's country all
have enormous Mooselimb fifth columns resident therein and a
power elite that seems determined to hand them the knives they
will use to slit Eurabian throats.

IBM

On Mon, 02 Feb 2009 20:45:03 -0600, Ian B MacLure
wrote:

hcobb wrote in news:da77e6cd-ee43-4fcb-8644-
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[snip]

Now if Europe fails to back President Neo against terrorist states and
so forces America to take action to take out the danger (that is even
more acute for Europe simply because they don't got no Atlantic moat
for the limited protection that offers in a global world), then the
blame for the hundreds, thousands or millions of lives to be lost does
not fall on America.

And of course the Eurabians including Il Dottore's country all
have enormous Mooselimb fifth columns resident therein and a
power elite that seems determined to hand them the knives they
will use to slit Eurabian throats.

Could I humbly sugggest that you look into muslim populations
before you spew your tripe? The US has a larger Muslim population
than any European country but Russia. On a per cant basis it is
near the European median.

That or use smileys.

Peter Skelton

On Feb 2, 6:45 am, 150flivver wrote:
Exactly how was the Air Force supposed to prevent 9/11? I guess the
Air Force wasn't prepared to prevent the banking crisis or global
warming either.

Which service is it that's supposed to at least intercept hostile
aircraft in American skies?

Perhaps this also should be handed over to the USMC?

-HJC

On Feb 2, 3:08*am, hcobb wrote:
On Feb 2, 6:45 am, 150flivver wrote:

Exactly how was the Air Force supposed to prevent 9/11? *I guess the
Air Force wasn't prepared to prevent the banking crisis or global
warming either.

Which service is it that's supposed to at least intercept hostile
aircraft in American skies?

Perhaps this also should be handed over to the USMC?

-HJC

9/11 was a criminal act conducted by foreign criminals. Calling it
war doesn't make it so. Law enforcement is something I don't want the
military involved in. The FBI and CIA dropped the ball on this one,
not the Air Force. Shooting down airliners filled with hostages/
citizens is something the Soviet Union would do, not what the USA does.

150flivver wrote in news:359a3711-b5ea-4741-
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On Feb 2, 3:08*am, hcobb wrote:
On Feb 2, 6:45 am, 150flivver wrote:

Exactly how was the Air Force supposed to prevent 9/11? *I guess the
Air Force wasn't prepared to prevent the banking crisis or global
warming either.

Which service is it that's supposed to at least intercept hostile
aircraft in American skies?

Perhaps this also should be handed over to the USMC?

-HJC

9/11 was a criminal act conducted by foreign criminals. Calling it

It was an act of war by a non-state actor. We quite properly
took it at face value and opened hostilities on the actors
and their supporters.

war doesn't make it so. Law enforcement is something I don't want the
military involved in. The FBI and CIA dropped the ball on this one,
not the Air Force. Shooting down airliners filled with hostages/
citizens is something the Soviet Union would do, not what the USA does.

The FBI and CIA had been knecapped by Jamie Gorelick at Klintoon's
behest. It was more than your career was worth to ask inconvenient
questions or, god forbid, share information. Many of the necessary
dots were already plotted. They just could not legally be connected
and it took an enormous effort against determined Dhimmicrap
opposition to change that situation.

IBM

On Feb 2, 9:51*pm, Ian B MacLure wrote:
150flivver wrote in news:359a3711-b5ea-4741-
:

On Feb 2, 3:08*am, hcobb wrote:
On Feb 2, 6:45 am, 150flivver wrote:

Exactly how was the Air Force supposed to prevent 9/11? *I guess the
Air Force wasn't prepared to prevent the banking crisis or global
warming either.

Which service is it that's supposed to at least intercept hostile
aircraft in American skies?

Perhaps this also should be handed over to the USMC?

-HJC

9/11 was a criminal act conducted by foreign criminals. *Calling it

* * * * It was an act of war by a non-state actor. We quite properly
* * * * took it at face value and opened hostilities on the actors
* * * * and their supporters.

war doesn't make it so. *Law enforcement is something I don't want the
military involved in. *The FBI and CIA dropped the ball on this one,
not the Air Force. *Shooting down airliners filled with hostages/
citizens is something the Soviet Union would do, not what the USA does.

* * * * The FBI and CIA had been knecapped by Jamie Gorelick at Klintoon's
* * * * behest. It was more than your career was worth to ask inconvenient
* * * * questions or, god forbid, share information. Many of the necessary
* * * * dots were already plotted. They just could not legally be connected
* * * * and it took an enormous effort against determined Dhimmicrap
* * * * opposition to change that situation.

* * * * IBM

IIRC Clinton left office in January 2001, the FBI and CIA continued
their feud that says "I won't tell you anything you can use", and FBI
telephone taps that should have been tied to that "Osama bin Ladin
wants to do harm to the US" line in the PDB. As near as I can tell
that division still exists, perhaps expanded by the NSA being able to
say "I know something you don't". We now have an extra level of DNI to
add to the various inter service and interagency versions of that same
attitude. I would bet that more useful intelligence gets stuffed into
burn bags than gets into the PDB.

150flivver wrote in news:e6533896-54b5-46bc-b1d8-
:

On Feb 1, 6:48*pm, hcobb wrote:
On 9/11 random airline passengers were better prepared to defend
America than the USAF was.

What exactly has changed since?

-HJC

Exactly how was the Air Force supposed to prevent 9/11? I guess the
Air Force wasn't prepared to prevent the banking crisis or global
warming either.

The Air Force wasn't at fault.
It was a massive and systemic intelligence failure made possible
by obstructions to the sharing of what we did know put in place by
Klintoon and krew.

IBM

hcobb wrote in news:652ccc48-41dd-4d32-923a-
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On 9/11 random airline passengers were better prepared to defend
America than the USAF was.

What exactly has changed since?

Klintoon is out of office.
And we've had 8 years to think about the consequences of letting
our guard down. Plus ample demonstration of the kind of domestic
enemies who still think its 9/10.

IBM