Wedding Party Massacre? Doubtful.....

"Kevin Brooks" wrote in message ...

Never heard of terrorists using such equipment, eh?

Right. Al-Qaeda: The Musical....

Looks like BG Kimmet has drawn very different conclusions from what you
have, Scott. And if you are going to quote the guy, at least do so by
paraphrasing his entire statement.

How about today, then, from the briefing transcript: "...But I would
tell you that, again, day after day after day, as we continue to get
more evidence in, as we continue to get more new evidence coming in,
it is pretty clear to us that what happened that night from the --
about after midnight until about 0400 -- that the activities that we
saw happening on the ground were somewhat inconsistent with a wedding
party. And it could well have been, as we have said before, that
there was some sort of celebration going on. ..."

"...somewhat inconsistent with a wedding party...."

Yeah. There's a ringing statement of confidence.

Scott

"Scott MacEachern" wrote in message
om...
"Kevin Brooks" wrote in message
...

Never heard of terrorists using such equipment, eh?

Right. Al-Qaeda: The Musical....

Looks like BG Kimmet has drawn very different conclusions from what you
have, Scott. And if you are going to quote the guy, at least do so by
paraphrasing his entire statement.

How about today, then, from the briefing transcript: "...But I would
tell you that, again, day after day after day, as we continue to get
more evidence in, as we continue to get more new evidence coming in,
it is pretty clear to us that what happened that night from the --
about after midnight until about 0400 -- that the activities that we
saw happening on the ground were somewhat inconsistent with a wedding
party. And it could well have been, as we have said before, that
there was some sort of celebration going on. ..."

You conveniently missed the PICTURE that showed the rocket launchers, and
rounds these "wedding party" folks were found with? Hell of a wedding
gift..."Oh, honey, look! It's that RPG-7 we were hoping to get!"

And all of those *Sudanese* attendants..heck of along way to travel for a
wedding in those parts...


"...somewhat inconsistent with a wedding party...."

Yeah. There's a ringing statement of confidence.

How about his quote: "But at this point, we have seen really nothing that
causes us to be -- to change our minds."

Or: "We have found no evidence of any children being killed, by people on
the ground. We had a ground force element that went through the objective.
It did not identify any children killed. And so this, again, is part of
what needs to be determined by an unbiased investigation. And that's
exactly what we're taking forward." (This has been your pet peeve, right?
The alleged butchering of children?)

Or: "But the intelligence that we had, that got us there, what we found on
the ground and our post-strike analysis suggests that what we had was a
significant foreign-fighter waystation, smuggler waystation in the middle of
the desert that was bringing people into this country for the sole purpose
of attacking to kill the people of Iraq. We have a responsibility to
maintain a safe and secure environment. That is our responsibility, that is
our obligation, and we will carry that out."

Again, a bit different from the version of Kimmet's words you keep
parroting.

Brooks


Scott

"Kevin Brooks" wrote in
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"Scott MacEachern" wrote in message
om...
"Kevin Brooks" wrote in message
...

Never heard of terrorists using such equipment, eh?

Right. Al-Qaeda: The Musical....

Looks like BG Kimmet has drawn very different conclusions from what
you have, Scott. And if you are going to quote the guy, at least do
so by paraphrasing his entire statement.

How about today, then, from the briefing transcript: "...But I would
tell you that, again, day after day after day, as we continue to get
more evidence in, as we continue to get more new evidence coming in,
it is pretty clear to us that what happened that night from the --
about after midnight until about 0400 -- that the activities that we
saw happening on the ground were somewhat inconsistent with a wedding
party. And it could well have been, as we have said before, that
there was some sort of celebration going on. ..."

You conveniently missed the PICTURE that showed the rocket launchers,
and rounds these "wedding party" folks were found with? Hell of a
wedding gift..."Oh, honey, look! It's that RPG-7 we were hoping to
get!"

And all of those *Sudanese* attendants..heck of along way to travel
for a wedding in those parts...


"...somewhat inconsistent with a wedding party...."

Yeah. There's a ringing statement of confidence.

How about his quote: "But at this point, we have seen really nothing
that causes us to be -- to change our minds."

Or: "We have found no evidence of any children being killed, by people
on the ground. We had a ground force element that went through the
objective. It did not identify any children killed. And so this,
again, is part of what needs to be determined by an unbiased
investigation. And that's exactly what we're taking forward." (This
has been your pet peeve, right? The alleged butchering of children?)

Or: "But the intelligence that we had, that got us there, what we
found on the ground and our post-strike analysis suggests that what we
had was a significant foreign-fighter waystation, smuggler waystation
in the middle of the desert that was bringing people into this country
for the sole purpose of attacking to kill the people of Iraq. We have
a responsibility to maintain a safe and secure environment. That is
our responsibility, that is our obligation, and we will carry that
out."

Again, a bit different from the version of Kimmet's words you keep
parroting.

Brooks


Scott




Face reality;you or anyone else here is not going to convince Mr.MacEachern
of anything favorable to the US. His mind is made up regardless of any
facts to the contrary.

--
Jim Yanik
jyanik-at-kua.net

On Mon, 24 May 2004 15:29:15 -0400, "Kevin Brooks"
wrote:

You conveniently missed the PICTURE that showed the rocket launchers,

There are no slides (that I can see, anyway) with the transcript at
http://www.dod.mil/transcripts/2004/...0524-0793.html. And oh, yes,
if there's an RPG it must involve insurgents. After all, who else in a
law-abiding country like Iraq would own an RPG?

And all of those *Sudanese* attendants..heck of along way to travel for a
wedding in those parts...

Why so? People travel all over the Middle East: Sudanese (and not
Muslims, but Nuer and Dinka from the south) were an important element
in the construction force in Yemen and Jordan for quite some time. Do
you actually think that, after the degree of smuggling tolerated by
all sides (even America, in Kurdistan) during Saddam's rule, movement
of peopel an dgoods has just stopped?

(This has been your pet peeve, right?
The alleged butchering of children?)

Quite a bit of it, yes. (They found no children being killed... except
of course for all of those people who say that children were killed.
But hell, they're only Iraqis, right?) But more generally than that
the idea that in occupied Iraq (or Afghanistan) the best procedure in
such a case is simply to bomb the hell out of the place and then ask
questions and stonewall later. Because what Kimmitt is making clear is
that he _doesn't know what that meeting was_. Here he is again, from
the section of the transcript that you quoted:

...our post-strike analysis suggests that what we had was a
significant foreign-fighter waystation, smuggler waystation in the middle of
the desert ...

and he's treating them as if they were the same thing. But as far as I
know being a smuggler in Iraq is not supposed to automatically bring a
sentence of Death From On High. Still less attending a wedding.

Scott

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/3741223.stm

Several hours worth of home video tape showing the wedding has been
recovered.
+
Half-hour news video, showing the dead, including children and the very
guy who filmed the home video above.

BBC is the remorse of the world!

"Tamas Feher" wrote in message
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/3741223.stm

Several hours worth of home video tape showing the wedding has been
recovered.
+
Half-hour news video, showing the dead, including children and the very
guy who filmed the home video above.

BBC is the remorse of the world!




celebrating with machineguns in a war zone will get you killed . the same
thing happened in af-g-stan , they have to lose that habit . not to mention
the thousands wounded and killed a every year by these celebrations ,

"raymond o'hara" wrote in message
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"Tamas Feher" wrote in message
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/3741223.stm

Several hours worth of home video tape showing the wedding has been
recovered.
+
Half-hour news video, showing the dead, including children and the very
guy who filmed the home video above.

BBC is the remorse of the world!




celebrating with machineguns in a war zone will get you killed . the same
thing happened in af-g-stan , they have to lose that habit . not to mention
the thousands wounded and killed a every year by these celebrations ,

Yeah, the nerve of those people.....having customs like that in their own
country! Where do they get off doing stuff like that?
(^-^)))

George Z.

"George Z. Bush" wrote in message
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"raymond o'hara" wrote in message
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"Tamas Feher" wrote in message
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/3741223.stm

Several hours worth of home video tape showing the wedding has been
recovered.
+
Half-hour news video, showing the dead, including children and the
very
guy who filmed the home video above.

BBC is the remorse of the world!




celebrating with machineguns in a war zone will get you killed . the
same
thing happened in af-g-stan , they have to lose that habit . not to
mention
the thousands wounded and killed a every year by these celebrations ,

Yeah, the nerve of those people.....having customs like that in their own
country! Where do they get off doing stuff like that?
(^-^)))

George Z.



it's fine in peacetime idiot, but firing mg's in a war zone will get you
killed .

"raymond o'hara" wrote in message
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"George Z. Bush" wrote in message
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"raymond o'hara" wrote in message
news:z_lsc.52835$gr.5091710@attbi_s52...

"Tamas Feher" wrote in message
...
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/3741223.stm

Several hours worth of home video tape showing the wedding has been
recovered.
+
Half-hour news video, showing the dead, including children and the
very
guy who filmed the home video above.

BBC is the remorse of the world!




celebrating with machineguns in a war zone will get you killed . the
same
thing happened in af-g-stan , they have to lose that habit . not to
mention
the thousands wounded and killed a every year by these celebrations ,

Yeah, the nerve of those people.....having customs like that in their own
country! Where do they get off doing stuff like that?
(^-^)))

George Z.



it's fine in peacetime idiot, but firing mg's in a war zone will get you
killed .

Yeah, us idiots never know when our leg is being pulled....so, welcome to the
club, pal! You did such a great job with your application, we're re-doing the
rules and making you a charter member.

George Z.

In message Kjosc.108968$iF6.9831270@attbi_s02, raymond o'hara
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"George Z. Bush" wrote in message
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Yeah, the nerve of those people.....having customs like that in their own
country! Where do they get off doing stuff like that?
(^-^)))

it's fine in peacetime idiot, but firing mg's in a war zone will get you
killed .

It's not a "war zone" - major combat operations ended last year. Your
President said so, I saw him on the televisualiser gadget thingy,
standing on one of his big grey war canoes.

What, was he wrong or something? Isn't anyone going to tell him?

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He thinks too much: such men are dangerous.
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