Could the Press Grow a Spine?

Ed Rasimus wrote in message . ..

I'd rather win than lose.

Me too.

I'd rather America prevail than the Islamic fundamentalists.

I'd rather have truth and justice prevail than religious
fundamentalism regardless of the variety of religion or the
nationality of the fanatic.

I'd
rather retain national sovereignty than subject us to the whims of the
UN.

I'd rather our elected officials and their apointees respect the
Constitution, their obligations under the treaties ratified by
our Senate, and obey the law. Happily, six of our Supreme Court
Justices agree with me.

I'd rather carry my own weapon and defend myself.

Me too.

I'd rather
individual responsibility than a welfare state.

Me too, Ditto for welfare for the rich.

I'd rather keep my
earnings and make my own spending choices.

Me too.

I'd like higher standards
rather than affirmative action.

I'd like them both. They are not incompatible.

--

FF

Bring it on, Comrade Art.

(News Flash: Yesterday ain't Today)

Steve Swartz


"ArtKramr" wrote in message
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Subject: Could the Press Grow a Spine?
From: "Leslie Swartz"
Date: 6/23/2004 12:00 PM Pacific Standard Time
Message-id:

The good news is most of you radical assholes, being anti-RKBA, will roll
up
pretty quickly.

Steve Swartz


Do you have more than three Purple Hearts and a Silver Star?


Arthur Kramer
344th BG 494th BS
England, France, Belgium, Holland, Germany
Visit my WW II B-26 website at:
http://www.coastcomp.com/artkramer

ArtKramr wrote:
Subject: Could the Press Grow a Spine?
From: "Leslie Swartz"
Date: 6/23/2004 12:00 PM Pacific Standard Time
Message-id:

The good news is most of you radical assholes, being anti-RKBA, will roll up
pretty quickly.

Steve Swartz



Do you have more than three Purple Hearts and a Silver Star?

Now, now, don't rub it in. Chickenhawks have feelings too!

Cheers

--mike



Arthur Kramer
344th BG 494th BS
England, France, Belgium, Holland, Germany
Visit my WW II B-26 website at:
http://www.coastcomp.com/artkramer

Another gratuitous ad hominem, clearly content free, "Nyaaa-Nyaaa" post
brought to you by the Left.

Thanks Mike- you make me proud to be a thinking person.

Steve Swartz


"Mike Dargan" wrote in message
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ArtKramr wrote:
Subject: Could the Press Grow a Spine?
From: "Leslie Swartz"
Date: 6/23/2004 12:00 PM Pacific Standard Time
Message-id:

The good news is most of you radical assholes, being anti-RKBA, will
roll up
pretty quickly.

Steve Swartz



Do you have more than three Purple Hearts and a Silver Star?

Now, now, don't rub it in. Chickenhawks have feelings too!

Cheers

--mike



Arthur Kramer
344th BG 494th BS
England, France, Belgium, Holland, Germany
Visit my WW II B-26 website at:
http://www.coastcomp.com/artkramer

In message , Leslie Swartz
writes
The good news is most of you radical assholes, being anti-RKBA, will roll up
pretty quickly.

Am I a "radical asshole"? I'm a "gun nut" by UK standards.

Steve, just to clarify, are you advocating the deliberate murder of
anyone who disagrees with your opinion? I'd definitely think that the
Founding Fathers didn't envisage an Argentinean-style "dirty war"
against their own people when they drafted the Constitution.



--
He thinks too much: such men are dangerous.
Julius Caesar I:2

Paul J. Adam MainBoxatjrwlynch[dot]demon{dot}co(.)uk

The founders did indeed envision that tyranny, being a natural outgrowth of
consolidated power, would need to be checked by the right to keep and bear
arms.

The second amendment- second only to the first amendment- is indeed 1) the
only practical way to enforce the other nine; and 2) the "reboot button" for
the republic.

It is fascinating to go back and re-read the federalist/anti-federalist
arguments engaged in at the time of our founding. How far have we strayed;
and all of it so predictable. We are currently living the worst fears of
those who opposed a strong central government. Many of the checks and
balances have been tossed, one by one, over the gunwales in order to address
one "unfairness" or the other over the years.

Liberty for Security and all that.

Anyhow, this is not a political forum (gee- sure looks like one) so I'll let
everyone else have the last word.

As if that would stop 'em . . .

Steve Swartz


"Paul J. Adam" wrote in message
...
In message , Leslie Swartz
writes
The good news is most of you radical assholes, being anti-RKBA, will roll
up
pretty quickly.

Am I a "radical asshole"? I'm a "gun nut" by UK standards.

Steve, just to clarify, are you advocating the deliberate murder of
anyone who disagrees with your opinion? I'd definitely think that the
Founding Fathers didn't envisage an Argentinean-style "dirty war"
against their own people when they drafted the Constitution.



--
He thinks too much: such men are dangerous.
Julius Caesar I:2

Paul J. Adam MainBoxatjrwlynch[dot]demon{dot}co(.)uk

George Z. Bush wrote:

WalterM140 wrote:

Well I watched "Hardball" last night with Campbell Brown.

She had Bartlett, one of the Bushies on. She asked him a question. He talked
for a while and she said something like, "you are very articulate, but that
avoids the question completely." I wish more of the Press would point out that
the vast majority of the questions asked are just totally avoided on both
sides.

She also showed two clips back to back of VP Cheney caught in a big lie about
Atta's supposed meeting with Iraqi intelligence in Prague. In the one clip,
Cheney said it was "confirmed" that Atta met with Iraqi intelligence. About a
year later he said he never said that.

Running the clips back to back showed that he just lied. Bartlett hemmed and
hawed about that and said the question was still open, but Cheney's words
definitively said it was NOT open -- it was CONFIRMED (in case anyone missed
it the first time) that Atta met with Iraqi intelligence.

These ******* Republicans have got to go.


Let's face it, Walt, lying is what they do best....and accusing their opponents
of lying is what they do second best. It seems to be the nature of the beastie.

That they're lying is not slam dunk certain. Many of them, including
the shrub, lack the cognitive capacity necessary to conceive of and
transmit a lie. This might be fodder for a new thread. What factors
have caused the shrub to be so intellectually limited, especially since
his daddy is quite bright--Phi Beta Kappa?

Did Barbara hop the fence one night some five decades ago?
Too much brain numbing TV as a toddler?
Too much booze and/or cocaine two or three decades back?
Indoctrination by the neocon branch of the Moonies?

Cheers

--mike


George Z.

Walt

From: "George Z. Bush" am
Date: 6/23/2004 7:09 AM Central Daylight Time
Message-id:

WalterM140 wrote:
Well I watched "Hardball" last night with Campbell Brown.

She had Bartlett, one of the Bushies on. She asked him a question. He
talked
for a while and she said something like, "you are very articulate, but that
avoids the question completely." I wish more of the Press would point out
that
the vast majority of the questions asked are just totally avoided on both
sides.

She also showed two clips back to back of VP Cheney caught in a big lie
about
Atta's supposed meeting with Iraqi intelligence in Prague. In the one clip,
Cheney said it was "confirmed" that Atta met with Iraqi intelligence. About
a
year later he said he never said that.

Running the clips back to back showed that he just lied. Bartlett hemmed
and
hawed about that and said the question was still open, but Cheney's words
definitively said it was NOT open -- it was CONFIRMED (in case anyone
missed
it the first time) that Atta met with Iraqi intelligence.

These ******* Republicans have got to go.

Let's face it, Walt, lying is what they do best....and accusing their
opponents
of lying is what they do second best. It seems to be the nature of the
beastie.

George Z.

Walt

If either one of you were unbiased or even had an open mind you would see ALL
sides, including Democrats, doing exactly the same sort of things you blame the
Republicans for.

Both of you should take your Republican and Bush bashing elsewhere. This is a
military aviation newsgroup.

Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired

"WalterM140" wrote in message
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http://www.worldpress.org/Europe/1684.cfm

On 23 Jun 2004 08:27:29 GMT, (WalterM140) wrote:

Well I watched "Hardball" last night with Campbell Brown.

She had Bartlett, one of the Bushies on. She asked him a question. He talked
for a while and she said something like, "you are very articulate, but that
avoids the question completely." I wish more of the Press would point out that
the vast majority of the questions asked are just totally avoided on both
sides.

She also showed two clips back to back of VP Cheney caught in a big lie about
Atta's supposed meeting with Iraqi intelligence in Prague. In the one clip,
Cheney said it was "confirmed" that Atta met with Iraqi intelligence. About a
year later he said he never said that.

Running the clips back to back showed that he just lied. Bartlett hemmed and
hawed about that and said the question was still open, but Cheney's words
definitively said it was NOT open -- it was CONFIRMED (in case anyone missed it
the first time) that Atta met with Iraqi intelligence.

These ******* Republicans have got to go.

Yeah. The only thing that could be worse is if we had a bunch of
limp-wristed, pacifist, liberal democrates instead.