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"Judah" wrote in message ... Actually, CJ, you should go back and follow the thread a little more closely, and maybe read it without your blinders on. The conservative view presented was that liberals want to take other people's assets and redistribute them. I responded that conservatives want to take other people's assets and keep them for themselves. The response was that conservatives don't want other people's assets, and I disagree with that completely. You read my statement as a bitter one of resentment. Actually, I it was a simple plain fact of the Free Market economy. I made no mention of stealing. The Free Market in the US requires that people redistribute assets in order to get rich. Most people don't get rich based solely on their hourly rate. They get rich by buying low and selling high - real estate, stocks, antiques on a road show, or whatever. In the free market economy, someone wins, and someone loses. You need to sue your economics teacher. |
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One thing I have not seen mentioned here is that the Northwest article
specifically mentioned the airport fees (taxes) that are tacked on to most tickets. Those cover mainly the cost of maintaining and improving the terminal building, parking, security etc, none of which is even accessible to GA, much less used by it. As another observation, I think the airlines have a much better deal charging the per passenger fee rather than paying the same amount percentage-wise we do on fuel taxes. -- --Ray Andraka, P.E. President, the Andraka Consulting Group, Inc. 401/884-7930 Fax 401/884-7950 http://www.andraka.com "They that give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." -Benjamin Franklin, 1759 |
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"Judah" wrote in message ... I made no mention of stealing. The Free Market in the US requires that people redistribute assets in order to get rich. Most people don't get rich based solely on their hourly rate. They get rich by buying low and selling high - real estate, stocks, antiques on a road show, or whatever. In the free market economy, someone wins, and someone loses. You really don't have a clue, do you, about economics? |
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"David Brooks" wrote in message ... "C J Campbell" wrote in message ... "Judah" wrote in message ... How, exactly, do the rich get richer without taking other people's assets? Here we have the crux of what passes for liberalism these days. Idiot. The assumption is that if you possess something, it must have been stolen from somebody else. It is astounding that liberals, who claim to be intellectuals, cannot see the blatant fallacy behind this argument. Oh, please read the liberal economists. They understand perfectly well the principles of investment and growth, and that any successful economy cannot be zero-sum. Are there any left? Keynes (as he famously predicted) is dead. :-) To paraphrase Milton Friedman, we are all monetarists now. |
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"Dan Luke" wrote in message ... "C J Campbell" wrote: By those who, like Dan Luke, want to portray Jefferson as godless in order to further their own political agenda of excluding religious views from the political forum. I certainly would never claim Jefferson was godless. Rather, my point was that he would not pass the test for religious correctness of the religious right, whose political agenda is to enlist government in proselytizing their views. -- I have little tolerance for the religious right, either, but I don't think the religious right is representative of conservatism. They appear to be a hostile group of xenophobic, racist reactionaries. Frankly, they are as much of an embarrassment to conservatives as PETA and the ELF are to the liberals. Extremist groups like those are hotbeds for terrorism and other criminal activity. |
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"Tom Sixkiller" wrote in message ... "Dan Luke" wrote in message ... "C J Campbell" wrote: By those who, like Dan Luke, want to portray Jefferson as godless in order to further their own political agenda of excluding religious views from the political forum. I certainly would never claim Jefferson was godless. Rather, my point was that he would not pass the test for religious correctness of the religious right, whose political agenda is to enlist government in proselytizing their views. -- Quite...just as they take the phrase "separation of church and state" as though it's something from contemporary times rather than from the pen of James Madison, they guy who essentially WROTE the Constitution. Yes, but they did not make it part of the Constitution, did they? Read the Federalist papers. There was quite a bit of debate about it, and Madison lost. |
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Peter Gottlieb wrote:
"Matt Whiting" wrote in message ... If it weren't for liberal activist judges who try to make law rather than interpret the law, the amendment would, in fact, be superfluous. It is simply restating the obvious, but liberal judges are unable to understand it any other way. Are "liberal activist judges" any worse than conservative activist judges? Probably not, there are just more of them as society as a whole continues to decline and standards of morality and behavior are lowered. Isn't case law created in courts rather than by legislation, and a part of the balance of power of the government? That wasn't the intent behind the design of our government. The legislature creates legislation ... could be why they call it the legislature. :-) The courts are only to ensure that the legislature adheres to the constitution, they are not to "create" new law through interpretation. They are to affirm or deny a given law as being constitutional or not, and that is it. Matt |
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Tom Sixkiller wrote:
"Dan Luke" wrote in message ... "C J Campbell" wrote: By those who, like Dan Luke, want to portray Jefferson as godless in order to further their own political agenda of excluding religious views from the political forum. I certainly would never claim Jefferson was godless. Rather, my point was that he would not pass the test for religious correctness of the religious right, whose political agenda is to enlist government in proselytizing their views. -- Quite...just as they take the phrase "separation of church and state" as though it's something from contemporary times rather than from the pen of James Madison, they guy who essentially WROTE the Constitution. If he wrote the Constitution, why didn't he include this phraseology? Could it be that it was simply HIS opinion and not generally shared by the group that in the end approved the wording of our Constitution? Many contributed to the wording either through writing it with their own hand or through the debates that edited the final wording. You better go back and read some more history so that you learn not to take one man's opinion as being representative of all. Matt |
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"Tarver Engineering" wrote:
Another lie. I have science on my side Another lie. and no reason to lie. Then apparently it's just your nature. Try posting there again. If what you just said is the truth, you should get little or no response. I cross post to talk.origins every few months. It is a kook bin full of retards spewing 150 year old dog breeder science and an ocasional qualified biologist. The biologist usually admits that there are big problems with Darwin's "Origin of Species", but "it demonstrates how one thing might replace another". Although demonstrating a concept has value, theaching religion as science is not the way to do it. More lies. You're afraid. |
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"Tarver Engineering" wrote in message ... Fiscal conservatism and a strong resistence to government redistribution are two consrvative sentiments libertarians share. Absolutely. And that's a bad thing? You are probably thinkin of left and right in European terms, where both ends of the spectrum are socialist. Well .. considering both ends of the spectrum wish to grow govt at an astronomical rate .. you could be right. But I generally think in terms of the left wishing to control my pocket book and the right wishing to control my morals, violate my privacy, and control what goes on in my bedroom. |
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