Flaps on take-off and landing

Allen wrote:
"Margy Natalie" wrote in message
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Mxsmanic wrote:

Larry Dighera writes:



Personally, I chose to reside ten minutes from the airport, so the
drive is not too bad.


A good solution if you have the option. But most people are
constrained to live far from airports. The closest airport for me is
about 12 miles away, as the crow (er, aircraft) flies.

The ideal would be to live in one of those cool airparks where
everyone has a driveway in front and a taxiway out back, but how many
people can afford to do that?



Generally the air time used exceeds the minimum daily flight time the
FBO charges, so it's a non issue.


But what about the time the aircraft is on the ground, away from its
home base, over the course of the weekend?

You aren't getting it. If the FBO has a 2 hr. per day minimum and you
take the airplane for a week you are expected to put 14 hours flying
time on it. So, for example, if you want to take a week long jaunt you
can fly 4 hours the first day, 0 the second, 6 the third, 0 the fourth,
0the fifth, 2 the sixth and two the seventh. The plane sits like the
rental car.

You pay your 14 hours and you are good.

Margy


Or you fly two hours there, two hours back amd also pay for the 10 hours you
did not fly. That reimburses the FBO for possible lost revenue while you
have sole posession of the plane.

Allen


But what fun is that? Do you know any pilot who can't make up a good
reason to go flying ;-)

Margy

Mxsmanic wrote:
Margy Natalie writes:


You aren't getting it. If the FBO has a 2 hr. per day minimum and you
take the airplane for a week you are expected to put 14 hours flying
time on it. So, for example, if you want to take a week long jaunt you
can fly 4 hours the first day, 0 the second, 6 the third, 0 the fourth,
0the fifth, 2 the sixth and two the seventh. The plane sits like the
rental car.

You pay your 14 hours and you are good.


How much does it cost per hour?

Depends on the airplane.

Margy

Peter Duniho wrote:
"Mxsmanic" wrote in message
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"Jim Macklin" writes:


I still prefer to look out a real window and follow rivers
and streams. Roads and railroads are to straight.

What's wrong with being straight?


Not enough distinguishing features to make them useful landmarks.

Though, that said, they can still be quite useful if you are in an area with
only a few roads, or you already have a pretty good idea of where you are,
or you cross-reference a road or railroad or similar feature with some more
distinctive feature.

Pete


Gee, I was thinking following roads was too boring, just straight and
level. Following streams and creeks is much more fun. My primary
instructor took me out in a tail-dragger to "learn what a rudder is for"
by following rivers and creeks.

Margy

How would
ANR windows work, genius?

1: Install Windows.
2: The sound card crashes.

Jose
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("B A R R Y" wrote)
I have read of many sim pilots actually drinking alcohol while they fly,
too.

Count me as one. I damn near fell out of the chair after too many Sierra
Nevada Pale Ales while flying MSFS.


Click on the "Fasten Seat Belt" switch, after your 4th SNPA, and that
wouldn't happen as often.


Montblack

Thomas Borchert writes:

So now you're showing your cluelessness in the next field?

No, I was being facetious. Some people don't pick up on it.

How would ANR windows work, genius?

While technically possible, I don't think they'd be practical or
useful. It's much easier to build ANR headphones, just as it's easier
to wear shoes than it is to cover the ground with leather.

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Thomas Borchert writes:

The actual figure is somewhere between 70 and 200 bucks for a single
engine four-seater.

That's very expensive. You'd be paying perhaps $800 or more just for
weekend transportation, and that's just with a tiny plane. Even if
the entire objective of the weekend is to provide an excuse to fly,
it's still expensive.

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Marty Shapiro writes:

In the SF Bay area here are the web sites of two FBO's at PAO where
you can rent wet (fuel included):

http:\\www.shorelineflyingclub.com
http:\\www.wvfc.org

At Shoreline, the lowest rates are a hundred times higher than those
for a car (which you can rent by the day, not by the hour, for about
the same prices). Plus you have to factor in (or amortize) the $9000
cost of your license and all the overhead expenses.

It looks like an extremely costly hobby, and an even more costly form
of transportation. I'm not happy about that, but there's no denying
it.

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Margy Natalie writes:

Depends on the airplane.

How about a 737-800?

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Peter Duniho writes:

Not enough distinguishing features to make them useful landmarks.

But they are more likely to lead somewhere, aren't they? If you know
that you're above Interstate X, you could just follow it to wherever X
leads.

Though, that said, they can still be quite useful if you are in an area with
only a few roads, or you already have a pretty good idea of where you are,
or you cross-reference a road or railroad or similar feature with some more
distinctive feature.

How do you look out the window? It seems that the instrument panel is
pretty imposing in most aircraft, and often the nose of the plane
extends well beyond it, so it doesn't look like you'd be able to see
the ground straight ahead. Do you just glance out the side windows,
or what?

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