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NW_Pilot's Trans-Atlantic Flight -- All the scary details...



 
 
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  #221  
Old October 4th 06, 09:01 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Andrew Gideon
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On Tue, 03 Oct 2006 16:18:26 -0700, NW_Pilot wrote:

Yes, it was coupled to the G1000 and was useless!


Why?

The Garmin audio panel in our planes has a nifty feature. If the panel is
powered down, the pilot's headset is connected to COM1. Thus,
communication survives the failure of the audio panel.

They didn't do the same thing with the connectivity in the G1000 from
the sensors to the autopilot?

Are you sure that it wasn't the failure of the AHRS1 (which I saw in one
of your photos) which took out the AP? Not that this makes too much of a
difference to the pilot in your scenario, I suppose, but I'm growing quite
curious (in a negative way) during this thread regarding how the G1000 is
architected.

- Andrew

  #222  
Old October 4th 06, 09:06 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Andrew Gideon
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On Wed, 04 Oct 2006 01:16:08 +0000, Matt Whiting wrote:

I believe that there are many reasons for redundancy and the potential for
a poorly designed system is one of them.


If we assume a bug that causes a G1000 to fail due to bad data coming from
a sensor, for example, then it doesn't matter if we've a dozen G1000s in
the airplane. Dealing with bad design requires diversity as well as
redundancy.

- Andrew

  #223  
Old October 4th 06, 09:11 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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In article ,
Andrew Gideon wrote:

Um, yes. I don't date pilots anyway.


Now that is just not right Emily. Pilots need love too.


Perhaps. But Emily is avoiding the problem of the permanent "who gets
right seat" discussion.


eh? CFI's don't fly right seat?

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  #224  
Old October 4th 06, 09:34 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Andrew Gideon
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On Wed, 04 Oct 2006 16:11:26 -0400, Bob Noel wrote:

Perhaps. But Emily is avoiding the problem of the permanent "who gets
right seat" discussion.


eh? CFI's don't fly right seat?


I actually meant "left seat". I've no idea why I reversed it.

But either way, as the sole pilot Emily gets to decide where she sits. In
a dual pilot relationship, there's negotiation.

- Andrew

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Old October 4th 06, 10:31 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Jay Honeck
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But either way, as the sole pilot Emily gets to decide where she sits. In
a dual pilot relationship, there's negotiation.


No there's not.

I get out, she gets back. Or vice versa. It's easy, and there are no
arguments.
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  #226  
Old October 4th 06, 10:35 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Jay Honeck
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Personally, I think you'd have to be dumber than a box of rocks to pay
that much for a Baron -- hell, you can get a nice biz-jet for less --
but there were apparently 17 people in 2005 that possessed the unique
dual-qualities of "dumb enough to do it, and rich enough to afford
it"...


Is that a typical price range for a plane in the Baron's category? If
not, why is the Baron special?


The Baron (and all Raytheon/Beech products) is considered to be the
"Cadillac" airplane, meaning extremely durable, well-engineered, and
pricey.

Or, to those of us who think it's crazy, they're heavy,
over-engineered, and over-priced.

It's all in the eye of the beholder, of course, but spending $1.7
million for a light piston twin is just stupid, IMHO.
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  #227  
Old October 4th 06, 11:03 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Emily
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Grumman-581 wrote:
"Gig 601XL Builder" wrDOTgiaconaATcox.net wrote in message
...
Bigot.


Nawh, she's just looking for someone with more disposable income...
evil-grin


Well, SOMEONE'S got to pay the bills, and you know where my money is
going. g
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Old October 4th 06, 11:04 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Andrew Gideon wrote:
On Wed, 04 Oct 2006 16:11:26 -0400, Bob Noel wrote:

Perhaps. But Emily is avoiding the problem of the permanent "who gets
right seat" discussion.

eh? CFI's don't fly right seat?


I actually meant "left seat". I've no idea why I reversed it.

But either way, as the sole pilot Emily gets to decide where she sits. In
a dual pilot relationship, there's negotiation.


Eh, as a CFI, I really don't care where I sit.

Unless you're assuming the pilot flying is sitting in left seat!
  #229  
Old October 4th 06, 11:10 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Ben Jackson
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Default NW_Pilot's Trans-Atlantic Flight -- All the scary details...

On 2006-10-04, Jay Honeck wrote:

It's all in the eye of the beholder, of course, but spending $1.7
million for a light piston twin is just stupid, IMHO.


Considering the Eclipse 500 was just certified and priced at $1.5M
it sure sounds crazy! Well, except I bet the cabin of the Baron is
a lot bigger.

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  #230  
Old October 4th 06, 11:12 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Ben Jackson
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On 2006-10-04, Jay Honeck wrote:

I get out, she gets back. Or vice versa. It's easy, and there are no
arguments.


Hey, instead of your IR you should get your CFI, then you could both
log PIC all day long!

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