Bizarre Weather

NW_Pilot wrote:
Dylan Smith wrote:
On 2008-01-28, Jay Honeck wrote:
Just goes to show you that weather is still as much a mystery than a
science. But after such an unusually harsh winter, we'll gladly take
the occasional pleasant surprise...

No - not really; a stable atmosphere where there's insufficient
condensation nuclei or insufficient relative humidity, fog won't form
and the visibility can be quite good. You can also get poor visibility
with unstable air, happened quite often when I lived in Houston.

The general case (unstable air, rough, good visibility; stable air,
smooth, terrible visibility) is just the general case. There are
conditions that can result in something other than the general case. No
particular mystery!


Cold Clear = Nice Solid Air Usually

Isn't solid air a little rough on the airframe? :-)

Matt

"Bertie the Bunyip" wrote:

After all, if scientists can't exactly predict the weather, how can
they predict the climate?


Actually, weather prediction is very good nowadays.

Very good.

Indeed.

But it is a common talking point of U. S. right wing global warming deniers
that it isn't because it rained in Peoria one day when it wasn't supposed to.

...and what science *is* exact?


None, but none claims to be.

Just so.


--
Dan

"The future has actually been here for a while, it's just not readily
available to everyone."
- some guy at MIT

Dan,
It is my poor choice of words. What I meant is that weather
prediction is not 100% accurate. Since it is a science and not math,
perfect precision is neither expected nor required. Anyway, I only
watch the weather and not the mystery channel before flying ;-)

Hai Longworth

"Dan Luke" wrote in
:


"Bertie the Bunyip" wrote:

After all, if scientists can't exactly predict the weather, how can
they predict the climate?


Actually, weather prediction is very good nowadays.

Very good.

Indeed.

But it is a common talking point of U. S. right wing global warming
deniers that it isn't because it rained in Peoria one day when it
wasn't supposed to.

I know.


...and what science *is* exact?


None, but none claims to be.

Just so.

Well, some comfort can be taken in the fact that at least some progress
seems to have been made and perhaps the momentum will continue.




Bertie

"Longworth" wrote:

Dan,
It is my poor choice of words. What I meant is that weather
prediction is not 100% accurate. Since it is a science and not math,
perfect precision is neither expected nor required. Anyway, I only
watch the weather and not the mystery channel before flying ;-)

I knew what you meant, Hai.

See you at OSH this summer?

--
Dan
T-182T at BFM

Umm, I think this is at least the third time that you mispelled
Prairie Du Chien. It's no big deal but it bugs me enough that I have
to point it out ;-).
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Hey -- here's that phenomenon others have pointed out. My response to your
response is NOT putting little carrots ("") in front of your quoted words.
Wonder what's up with that...?

Anywho, I know -- I HATE the name "Prairie du Chien". No matter how I spell
it, it looks wrong. I've been there 500 times, and I STILL can't get it
right... Some sort of mental block, apparently...

But, hey, you misspelled "mispelled" and "sicence" (below) -- so we're even!

:-)
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Weather prediction may not be an exact science but it is quite an
advanced sicence. NOAA report had predicted an above-average winter
temperatures

http://www.noaanews.noaa.gov/stories...9_outlook.html

Our electric bill for the last two months was only $100. The bill
showed the total degrees in comparison for the same two-month period
last year and it was indeed significantly warmer.
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Just the opposite here. They predicted a warmer-than-average winter, and we
have the coldest winter since we moved here in '97. It's been bitter, with
almost daily snowfall -- and our heating bills have skyrocketed. (Of
course, our natural gas rates were raised 23% this month, without fanfare.)
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

On 2008-01-29, Jay Honeck wrote:
But, hey, you misspelled "mispelled" and "sicence" (below) -- so we're even!

It's an Internet tradition: a comment on someone's spelling must itself
contain misspellings.

Just the opposite here. They predicted a warmer-than-average winter, and we
have the coldest winter since we moved here in '97. It's been bitter, with
almost daily snowfall -- and our heating bills have skyrocketed. (Of
course, our natural gas rates were raised 23% this month, without fanfare.)

Yeah.

Now, I need to go shovel some global warming out of my driveway...
--
Jay Maynard, K5ZC http://www.conmicro.com
http://jmaynard.livejournal.com http://www.tronguy.net
http://www.hercules-390.org (Yes, that's me!)
Buy Hercules stuff at http://www.cafepress.com/hercules-390

"Morgans" wrote in news:FVtnj.68$zV2.51
@newsfe06.lga:

"Judah" wrote
I am a firm believer in Darwin's Weather Evolution principal.

Huh ? ? ?
That went "wooosh" right over my head, I'm afraid! g

Hi Jim,

I've evaluated 3 responses:

1) Perhaps you need to increase your altitude next time.

2) Wow! I didn't think anyone else actually read my drivel!

3) It was a poke at people who think that we as humans actually know
everything (like how to predict the weather). Combine that with a knock on
those who would support their opinions by expressing their dogma in the form
of scientific and/or religious laws, and you come away with just the
slightest taste of that cynical mesh of liquid wiring that I like to call my
sense of humor.


My apologies to Dan and anyone else who was not interested in the bandwidth
wasted by the oft-erratic sputterings of my acetylcoline.

On 2008-01-28, Judah wrote:
I know you weren't. I was just pointing out the oxymoron of the typical
scientific theory and those who believe in them.

What, in particular, is oxymoron about "scientific theory"?

Methinks you are confusing theory with conjecture. In science, theory
does not mean 'guess' or 'hunch'. It has a very specific meaning that is
not the same as what a TV detective means when he says 'I have a
theory'.

--
From the sunny Isle of Man.
Yes, the Reply-To email address is valid.

"Judah" wrote:

I know you weren't. I was just pointing out the oxymoron of the typical
scientific theory and those who believe in them.

You apparently do not understand the meaning of "oxymoron."

....or science...

or "theory."

What do you understand?

--
Dan

"Dragged forward by cold science, which doesn’t care what we think or believe
or wish for, we are headed into some interesting times."
- John Derbyshire