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limit of trim = limit of travel?
Mxsmanic wrote in
: writes: The 182RG, the REAL airplane, has enough pitch trim to maintain slow flight just above the stall. I'll continue to experiment. The trim on sims behaves nothing like it does in the real airplane almost to the point of having a different purpose. Bertie |
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limit of trim = limit of travel?
WingFlaps writes:
No, that doesn't sound right. The stall horn is supposed to sound before the stall speed is reached. It does, but only a second or two before (assuming that airspeed is still falling). If I take remedial action instantly the stall does not occur. |
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limit of trim = limit of travel?
Mxsmanic wrote in
news WingFlaps writes: No, that doesn't sound right. The stall horn is supposed to sound before the stall speed is reached. It does, but only a second or two before (assuming that airspeed is still falling). If I take remedial action instantly the stall does not occur. A stall will never occur. Computers don;'t stal. Bertie |
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Buttman wrote in
: WingFlaps wrote: On Apr 27, 7:03Â*am, Mxsmanic wrote: I just tried a few experiments No, that doesn't sound right. The stall horn is supposed to sound before the stall speed is reached. Cheers "supposed to", but doesn't always. I've flown planes (especially cessnas with their crappy cereal-box-toy-quality plastic stall horns) that don't go off at all, but will test fine on the ground. What, you didn't stick chewing gum in them to fail them so your students would learn what it was like when they failed? Bertie |
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limit of trim = limit of travel?
Buttman wrote in news:4813a805$0$30167
: Stealth Pilot wrote: oxygen is a valuable resource. please stop wasting it. Stealth Pilot someones grumpy... There you go again. There's a deserving cockroach not getting his fair share. Bertie |
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limit of trim = limit of travel?
Buttman wrote in news:4813aa40$0$30228
: Bertie the Bunyip wrote: Buttman wrote in : WingFlaps wrote: On Apr 27, 7:03Â*am, Mxsmanic wrote: I just tried a few experiments No, that doesn't sound right. The stall horn is supposed to sound before the stall speed is reached. Cheers "supposed to", but doesn't always. I've flown planes (especially cessnas with their crappy cereal-box-toy-quality plastic stall horns) that don't go off at all, but will test fine on the ground. What, you didn't stick chewing gum in them to fail them so your students would learn what it was like when they failed? Bertie Oh bertie, you're such a card I know. And you're such an idiot. Bertie |
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limit of trim = limit of travel?
On Apr 26, 1:50 pm, Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
Actually, there are plenty of airplanes with tabs not much bigger than trim tabs that use them to fly the airplane. There is no connection whatsoever between the surface and the stick. All done by the tab. I don;'t think anyone is making any of them these days. Last new design I can think of is the DC-8. Bertie Servo tabs. Sometimes with a spring onto the surface itself, for low-speed control, and sometimes with no connection other than the tab's hinge to the surface. But it does move the control surface, which is what controls the airplane. The tab itself doesn't fly the airplane. It actually moves in the opposite direction to the surface. |
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limit of trim = limit of travel?
On Apr 26, 12:37 pm, WingFlaps wrote:
The idea was that if he looked at the area of the trim tab he would realize it cannot generate full surface deflection. I've not tried winding in full trim with power on to see if a stall results. I would have guessed that Mr Cessna would not make the trim that powerful... It's that powerful. With the trim centered, at full power, you're in a climb. Rolling in full up trim will make the climb steep enough to stall the airplane. Dan |
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