Dan Rather forges ahead

On Sun, 12 Sep 2004 11:42:18 -0500, "Bob Coe" wrote:

Didn't the Guard have letterhead back then?

Actually, probably not. I was a company clerk in the army somewhat
earlier, and I never saw letterhead paper. (Never saw superscripts or
centering, either!)

Someone called it "Rathergate" and I thought this was pretty funny, since
CBS attaches -gate to just about everything political.

It's astonishing how little play this story is getting. Compare how
excited the networks and the newspapers got about Republicans'
contributing (oh no!) to the Swifties advertising pot.

But here is CBS News, where Walter Cronkite once reigned, peddling
forgeries that very likely were created by the Kerry campaign. But
when you Google "CBS forgeries", the returns you get are all from
second-tier newspapers with Republican proclivities, like the New York
Post.

There was one good story in the Washington Post. (The post, for all
its overt partisanship, is a very honest newspaper.) I'd be very
grateful if anyone could point me to stories in the New Times or Los
Angeles Times, for example.
all the best -- Dan Ford
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"Ed Rasimus" wrote in message
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On Sun, 12 Sep 2004 06:35:06 -0400, Cub Driver
wrote:

On 11 Sep 2004 22:30:08 GMT, (Tom Cervo) wrote:

Come off it, Dan, anyone who used a typewriter knew the trick of lifting
the
roller a smidge (or lowering it) for sub (or super) script. You must not
have
ever typed footnotes.

And makes the letters tiny?

The forgeries were almost certainly created by Microsoft Word, and
were certainly created by a computer. The forger was so amateurish
that he didn't know how to turn off the auto-correct feature!

all the best -- Dan Ford

And, does anyone remember how you centered a heading with a
typewriter?

You counted the letters in the line to be typed, then centered the
roller and backspaced half the number of letters before starting to
type.

Can you imagine a commander typing himself an MFR going through that
sort of centered heading drill?

Well, Ed, the "memos" look like forgeries to me too but I've got to
wonder about that argument: were preprinted headers completely
unknown in the service back then?

Cub Driver wrote in
:

On 11 Sep 2004 22:30:08 GMT, (Tom Cervo) wrote:

Come off it, Dan, anyone who used a typewriter knew the trick of
lifting the roller a smidge (or lowering it) for sub (or super)
script. You must not have ever typed footnotes.

And makes the letters tiny?

The forgeries were almost certainly created by Microsoft Word, and
were certainly created by a computer. The forger was so amateurish
that he didn't know how to turn off the auto-correct feature!

all the best -- Dan Ford
email: (put Cubdriver in subject line)

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More on this;

http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2...12/73008.shtml

--
Jim Yanik
jyanik-at-kua.net

Tom Cervo wrote:

Come off it, Dan, anyone who used a typewriter knew the trick of lifting the
roller a smidge (or lowering it) for sub (or super) script. You must not have
ever typed footnotes.

The issue isn't the raised "th", but the fact that the "th" is written in a
smaller font as well.


BUFDRVR

"Stay on the bomb run boys, I'm gonna get those bomb doors open if it harelips
everyone on Bear Creek"

BUFDRVR wrote:
Tom Cervo wrote:


Come off it, Dan, anyone who used a typewriter knew the trick of lifting the
roller a smidge (or lowering it) for sub (or super) script. You must not have
ever typed footnotes.


The issue isn't the raised "th", but the fact that the "th" is written in a
smaller font as well.

From 1968 on SMC (Smith Corona) typewriters had two optional keyface
slots (shift one and shift +) for a number of optional letters, accents
and marks. I had section and paragraph marks on mine as I clerked in a
law office. "rd" and "nd" superscripts were also available.

Bill Jameson

In article ,
Bill Jameson wrote:

BUFDRVR wrote:
Tom Cervo wrote:


Come off it, Dan, anyone who used a typewriter knew the trick of lifting
the
roller a smidge (or lowering it) for sub (or super) script. You must not
have
ever typed footnotes.


The issue isn't the raised "th", but the fact that the "th" is written in a
smaller font as well.

From 1968 on SMC (Smith Corona) typewriters had two optional keyface
slots (shift one and shift +) for a number of optional letters, accents
and marks. I had section and paragraph marks on mine as I clerked in a
law office. "rd" and "nd" superscripts were also available.

Did they also offer proportional spacing and intercharacter kerning?

From: Steve Hix NVALID

Did they also offer proportional spacing and intercharacter kerning?

Hey, watch the language.

Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired

Steve Hix wrote:
In article ,
Bill Jameson wrote:


BUFDRVR wrote:

Tom Cervo wrote:



Come off it, Dan, anyone who used a typewriter knew the trick of lifting
the
roller a smidge (or lowering it) for sub (or super) script. You must not
have
ever typed footnotes.


The issue isn't the raised "th", but the fact that the "th" is written in a
smaller font as well.

From 1968 on SMC (Smith Corona) typewriters had two optional keyface
slots (shift one and shift +) for a number of optional letters, accents
and marks. I had section and paragraph marks on mine as I clerked in a
law office. "rd" and "nd" superscripts were also available.


Did they also offer proportional spacing and intercharacter kerning?

Well, contemporary to the SCM typewriters above, the IBM Executive
models did have proportional spacing and intercharacter kerning. These
were typebar models (not typeball like the IBM Selectric) The backspace
on the one I used would move 1/5 of the width of the letter "w."

I do not know if any of the IBM Executives had something similar to the
optional keyspace slots on the SCM. The one I used certainly didn't as I
can still remember making section mark symbols with capital 'S,'
backspace, backspace, backspace, roll platten down, capital 'S.'

Bill Jameson

On Mon, 13 Sep 2004 09:36:12 -0400, Bill Jameson
wrote:

From 1968 on SMC (Smith Corona) typewriters had two optional keyface
slots (shift one and shift +) for a number of optional letters, accents
and marks. I had section and paragraph marks on mine as I clerked in a
law office. "rd" and "nd" superscripts were also available.

Bill, you're part way to a $10,000 reward! Go to www.vivabush.org and
see how to collect.

all the best -- Dan Ford
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Tom Cervo wrote:

Flynn said it's "very unlikely" that the memos are legit, adding that
he knows of no typewriter fonts using proportionally spaced Roman type
with a raised "th" available in the 1970s.


Come off it, Dan, anyone who used a typewriter knew the trick of lifting the
roller a smidge (or lowering it) for sub (or super) script. You must not have
ever typed footnotes.

The problem is, the superscript in question is in a smaller type, rather than
in the same size type as it would be in the example you cite.

8-point vs. 12 point.