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petem wrote:

And can you give me a link to a web syte..(a reputed one...not any blog or
supposely news site)that support the story about UN taking Bribes from those
country


Try the page of the United Nations Secretary-General -
http://www.un.org/News/ossg/sg/index.shtml

"Secretary-General Kofi Annan today announced that he had initiated
disciplinary proceedings against officials involved in the operation"

Dave

"Mark Leuck" a écrit dans le message de news:
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"petem" wrote in message
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well look like the lack of wmd in irak proove that the resolution that
the
UN passed was enforced...

No proof of that at all


Well dont you think that if there would have been some WMD somewhere in Irak
it would have been found?
are you telling me that they disolved in thin air while the attack?

And who was working for the oil-rich countries before becoming the
president?

If you mean Bush I believe he was working for the Texas Rangers before
becoming govenor although you are free to bring up the usual conspiracy
theories

no he had about 40% ownership in the texas ranger...he was not working for
them....are you telling me that someone like him would only have 1
occupation in life?

And who is still friend with them?
And can you give me a link to a web syte..(a reputed one...not any blog
or
supposely news site)that support the story about UN taking Bribes from
those
country

You want evidence UN individuals took bribes from Iraq? You can't be
serious

France was the FIRST country to help the USA in its strugle to be
free...

That was over 200 years ago when France actually had some guts


They still have guts but they do have wisdom too..wich other are
lacking...

France is one of the biggest offender in much of this, because of it's
stagnant economy they are constantly selling components commonly used in
weapons (conventional, nuclear and biological) to whoever will pay the
bill,
same with Germany and Russia


and the USA dont sell weapon? never sold any weapon to saddam?
never helped osama with its war against russia? remeber the what reagan had
to deal with some rebelious poeple ..the contra(ore something like that?)

The fact is France, Germany and Russia were against the war for one
reason,
Iraq was a customer

of them AND a costumer of the USA


France and Canada where against the war because their governments have
no
backbone and choose to look a blind eye to the worlds problems

A blind eyes...lets talk about behing blind....what do you do about the
spreading of nuclear weapon in asia?

Good question, if we invade them would you whine and cry about it like you
do with Iraq? North Korea has nukes because Clinton and the UN were
spineless to actually do something about it, same thing is happening right
now with Iran. Rules are worthless without enforcement which is why you
will
always see nothing but resolutions and sanctions from the UN, they've
never
had the guts for military action and ALWAYS have to be dragged into
enforcement by the United States

Now invasion again..there are MANY ways to deal with an other country then
to invade it..
big biceps no brain...

Gee I think thats the general purpose of death row isn't it?


Killing someone as a punishment for crimes is as intelligent as beating a
few month old baby cause he cries..

Now thats a brilliant analogy, a baby doesn't know any better while a
serial
killer tends to understand what he does wrong

The point is that in both situation its a useless use of force...

what would you fear more...the rest of your life with no way of gaining
freedom,behing bars 24/24 or behing killed after a few years by a shot?
i was go insane pretty fast being behind bars for a long period..

if i kill someone and have to think about it in a cell for the rest of my
life or being killed i would choose death...thats the easy way out..
so you are putting it easier for murderer..


now tell me does it help lowering the crime rate??

It prevents those individuals from doing it again, I'd say it reduces
crime
by 100%

but its still not lowering the crime rates..

UN is trying to prevent the USA to take us ALL in a stupid war..Too
bad
you
cant understand that..

No the UN is a gutless corrupt organization that does nothing in the
face
of
danger, too bad you can't understand THAT

Proove to me the corruption..

Umm didn't you watch the news last week?

I will show you 20 times more corruption in the white house....

Go for it

Mark i know that as an American this is sounding like i am against
American
poeple
wich is so far from the true...

I don't say that, I'd say you are much like many on the left who believe
loony conspiracy theories or have such a hatred for Bush that they blindly
believe many of the stories floating out there


you always talk about stories...dont you think that part of are true?

In fact i am very happy to have a super nation beside my nation...it
helped
me and my fellows go on with less worry..till Bush came to power....

Personally if I lived in Canada I'd love to have a neighbor actually doing
something instead of just talking about it, but thats just me

Attaking a country to fight terrorism will not help..its only creating
more
extremist that will attack the USA

Then explain the reasoning for 9/11, if you are correct then that should
never have happened right?

911 was because you let thing go out of countrol after putting your big nose
in someone else mess..


BTW: Doing nothing also tends to create extremists

No doing nothing after helping exetremist group getting organized is what
created Osama


American troops are not welcome in any part of Irak..

Give me proof of that, I can find countless stories claiming otherwise


i see a lot of bombing....


but you still think
that you delivered them from a Bad dictator..

Well I don't think we delivered them from a GOOD dictator

What they really see is that they used to have a dictator and a
country...now they have a country that dictate them and they lost there
country...

Yes thats why they were able to vote last week

wow!!! vote!! they are free!! come on..how could they vote freely when they
were afraid of being killed


thats not an improment...that dictator would have died anyway..and who
knows
what would have came after him..

Like North Korea usually the son/sons take his place, now that would have
been fun wouldn't it?

In haiti the son didnt last long and every thing feel down..

could have happen with some diplomacy work in the back...using brains...no
biceps..

"petem" wrote in message
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"Mark Leuck" a écrit dans le message de news:
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"petem" wrote in message
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well look like the lack of wmd in irak proove that the resolution that
the
UN passed was enforced...

No proof of that at all


Well dont you think that if there would have been some WMD somewhere in
Irak
it would have been found?
are you telling me that they disolved in thin air while the attack?

Actually they did find several shells with WMD right after the war, if I had
to guess I'd say Syria now has them now


And who was working for the oil-rich countries before becoming the
president?

If you mean Bush I believe he was working for the Texas Rangers before
becoming govenor although you are free to bring up the usual conspiracy
theories

no he had about 40% ownership in the texas ranger...he was not working for
them....are you telling me that someone like him would only have 1
occupation in life?

You haven't mentioned what he did for "oil right countries" yet



France is one of the biggest offender in much of this, because of it's
stagnant economy they are constantly selling components commonly used in
weapons (conventional, nuclear and biological) to whoever will pay the
bill,
same with Germany and Russia


and the USA dont sell weapon? never sold any weapon to saddam?
never helped osama with its war against russia? remeber the what reagan
had
to deal with some rebelious poeple ..the contra(ore something like that?)

No question about that however France made an art out of it over the past 2
decades and still does


The fact is France, Germany and Russia were against the war for one
reason,
Iraq was a customer

of them AND a costumer of the USA

Not as of 2003


Now invasion again..there are MANY ways to deal with an other country then
to invade it..
big biceps no brain...

Such as? Oh wait...sanctions? yea that worked great eh?

Killing someone as a punishment for crimes is as intelligent as beating
a
few month old baby cause he cries..

Now thats a brilliant analogy, a baby doesn't know any better while a
serial
killer tends to understand what he does wrong

The point is that in both situation its a useless use of force...

I wouldn't say it was useless, Saddam is gone, Bin Laden is on the run and
both Iraq and Afghanistan held elections, then again if we did it your way
they'd still be run by the former dictators

what would you fear more...the rest of your life with no way of gaining
freedom,behing bars 24/24 or behing killed after a few years by a shot?
i was go insane pretty fast being behind bars for a long period..

if i kill someone and have to think about it in a cell for the rest of my
life or being killed i would choose death...thats the easy way out..
so you are putting it easier for murderer..

Thanks but I'd rather not pay to have that guy sit in a cell for the rest of
his life thinking about it and you assume they will feel guilty thinking
about it, instead they will just adapt to the new environment and likely
kill someone in prison

It prevents those individuals from doing it again, I'd say it reduces
crime
by 100%

but its still not lowering the crime rates..

Who cares what it does to the crime rate? That moron is out of the picture,
my only complaint with the death penalty is it takes too long to implement

I don't say that, I'd say you are much like many on the left who believe
loony conspiracy theories or have such a hatred for Bush that they
blindly
believe many of the stories floating out there


you always talk about stories...dont you think that part of are true?

From what I'd seen by the loony left very few

911 was because you let thing go out of countrol after putting your big
nose
in someone else mess..

Bin Laden planned 9/11 because we had troops in Saudi Arabia due of the
first iraq war, funny how Bin Laden didn't fly any planes into Bagdad
buildings when Iraq invaded Kuwait in 1990 but I guess thats not how it
works in their world

BTW: Doing nothing also tends to create extremists

No doing nothing after helping exetremist group getting organized is what
created Osama

I'd say they aren't too organized now are they?

American troops are not welcome in any part of Irak..

Give me proof of that, I can find countless stories claiming otherwise


i see a lot of bombing....

I have a feeling thats all you want to see


Yes thats why they were able to vote last week

wow!!! vote!! they are free!! come on..how could they vote freely when
they
were afraid of being killed

If I recall they didn't HAVE to vote, then again in the past they didn't
have that option, at least a real option


Like North Korea usually the son/sons take his place, now that would
have
been fun wouldn't it?

In haiti the son didnt last long and every thing feel down..

And Haiti is still a mess and will be a mess for decades to come, it also
wasn't an oil rich nation that could bribe those nice UN officials

could have happen with some diplomacy work in the back...using brains...no
biceps..

I think the UN tried that for the last 10 years, didn't really work very
well

"Jim E" FatboyPlonker@ FU.gov a écrit dans le message de news:
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"petem" wrote in message news:A2iN


He got used to it by killing anyone in the death row in Texas while he
was
governer..

Gee I think thats the general purpose of death row isn't it?


Killing someone as a punishment for crimes is as intelligent as beating a
few month old baby cause he cries..
now tell me does it help lowering the crime rate??

For one thing, it dramatically reduces the recitivism rate.
DUH.


yup you are right...for a few but not for the MAJORITY..itsl like if killing
a few ants on your lawn would make the whole pack go away...

thats why you like them back in that bahamas? ;-)

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france is full of wusses! anyone who thinks otherwise is a homo just
like the french president. The only reason they were against the war in
iraq was because they would loose out on that money they were making
off sissy sadaam.

he he he ..and dats da truth my niggie

Wow a few ass hole (froma country controled by american....cyprus) made
money out of the good will of an organisation and the whole thing is bad..

that way of thinking mean that Bush was aware of all the barbarian act on
Irak poeple in the so famous prison and should resigned..
SO what do you think of it?

the whole white house is not corrupted, just a few bad apple..
The same for the UN..but how many corruption or such unetical act did you
heard of in the UN?and how many in the White House?
or the senat or some deputy that killed someone or such thing...?

Damn the whole USA is corrupted!!!(Sarcasm here for the chalanged) its so
easy to see the bad in the others..hard to look at ourself..


"Dave Holford" a écrit dans le message
de news: ...
petem wrote:

And can you give me a link to a web syte..(a reputed one...not any blog
or supposely news site)that support the story about UN taking Bribes from
those country


Try the page of the United Nations Secretary-General -
http://www.un.org/News/ossg/sg/index.shtml

"Secretary-General Kofi Annan today announced that he had initiated
disciplinary proceedings against officials involved in the operation"

Dave

"Mark Leuck" a écrit dans le message de news:
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"petem" wrote in message
.. .

"Mark Leuck" a écrit dans le message de news:
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"petem" wrote in message
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well look like the lack of wmd in irak proove that the resolution that
the
UN passed was enforced...

No proof of that at all


Well dont you think that if there would have been some WMD somewhere in
Irak
it would have been found?
are you telling me that they disolved in thin air while the attack?

Actually they did find several shells with WMD right after the war, if I
had
to guess I'd say Syria now has them now

How old were they?10 years?

no he had about 40% ownership in the texas ranger...he was not working
for
them....are you telling me that someone like him would only have 1
occupation in life?

You haven't mentioned what he did for "oil right countries" yet


The fact is France, Germany and Russia were against the war for one
reason,
Iraq was a customer

of them AND a costumer of the USA

Not as of 2003

When did the towers collapsed? 2001? what happened in between?



Now invasion again..there are MANY ways to deal with an other country
then
to invade it..
big biceps no brain...

Such as? Oh wait...sanctions? yea that worked great eh?

show me the WMD


Killing someone as a punishment for crimes is as intelligent as
beating
a
few month old baby cause he cries..

Now thats a brilliant analogy, a baby doesn't know any better while a
serial
killer tends to understand what he does wrong

The point is that in both situation its a useless use of force...

I wouldn't say it was useless, Saddam is gone, Bin Laden is on the run and
both Iraq and Afghanistan held elections, then again if we did it your way
they'd still be run by the former dictators

on the run? he is much more free then you think...and you are helping him
find more crazy teen to supply kamikaze bomber..


what would you fear more...the rest of your life with no way of gaining
freedom,behing bars 24/24 or behing killed after a few years by a shot?
i was go insane pretty fast being behind bars for a long period..

if i kill someone and have to think about it in a cell for the rest of my
life or being killed i would choose death...thats the easy way out..
so you are putting it easier for murderer..

Thanks but I'd rather not pay to have that guy sit in a cell for the rest
of
his life thinking about it and you assume they will feel guilty thinking
about it, instead they will just adapt to the new environment and likely
kill someone in prison

thats were you dont have any imagination..(or to much of it..) i think that
the ass hole that killed should be left in hole in a very bad
situation....like France prison a few decade ago...for wuss they knew how to
treat criminals...



It prevents those individuals from doing it again, I'd say it reduces
crime
by 100%

but its still not lowering the crime rates..

Who cares what it does to the crime rate? That moron is out of the
picture,
my only complaint with the death penalty is it takes too long to implement

ok crime rate are uninportant...ok its true its better to wack someone skull
cause he wacked some sckull then to prevent the first blow..


I don't say that, I'd say you are much like many on the left who
believe
loony conspiracy theories or have such a hatred for Bush that they
blindly
believe many of the stories floating out there


you always talk about stories...dont you think that part of are true?

From what I'd seen by the loony left very few

911 was because you let thing go out of countrol after putting your big
nose
in someone else mess..

Bin Laden planned 9/11 because we had troops in Saudi Arabia due of the
first iraq war, funny how Bin Laden didn't fly any planes into Bagdad
buildings when Iraq invaded Kuwait in 1990 but I guess thats not how it
works in their world

what was Bin laden BEFORE that? what was he doing?
for koweit he had no time to do nothing the big boys were allready there in
a few days..


BTW: Doing nothing also tends to create extremists

No doing nothing after helping exetremist group getting organized is what
created Osama

I'd say they aren't too organized now are they?

why the security alert went to almost red during the election? organized or
not? if so why rase the level?


American troops are not welcome in any part of Irak..

Give me proof of that, I can find countless stories claiming otherwise


i see a lot of bombing....

I have a feeling thats all you want to see

well i listen to some news channel that are not american controled..must be
the difference in point of view


Yes thats why they were able to vote last week

wow!!! vote!! they are free!! come on..how could they vote freely when
they
were afraid of being killed

If I recall they didn't HAVE to vote, then again in the past they didn't
have that option, at least a real option

and it made a so large difference in ther life...in the next 10 year there
will be more inocent killed then in the last 30 years of sadam regime..





Like North Korea usually the son/sons take his place, now that would
have
been fun wouldn't it?

In haiti the son didnt last long and every thing feel down..

And Haiti is still a mess and will be a mess for decades to come, it also
wasn't an oil rich nation that could bribe those nice UN officials

no oil, the american had nothing to gain so they didnt cared..but still its
there neighbor


could have happen with some diplomacy work in the back...using
brains...no
biceps..

I think the UN tried that for the last 10 years, didn't really work very
well

Show me the WMD!!!!!!(repeat adnauseam) like "show me the money" in the
american film Jerry McGuire

Geez, yah need to take a look at some other countries and how corupt
they are (eg. where i live), makes the US look like angels ... yah dont
know the half of it dread ..

"petem" wrote in message
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Wow a few ass hole (froma country controled by american....cyprus) made
money out of the good will of an organisation and the whole thing is bad..

Cyprus controled by americans? Uh no it's been partitioned by Greece and
Turkey for the past 50+ years

that way of thinking mean that Bush was aware of all the barbarian act on
Irak poeple in the so famous prison and should resigned..
SO what do you think of it?

I have no idea what you just said

the whole white house is not corrupted, just a few bad apple..
The same for the UN..but how many corruption or such unetical act did you
heard of in the UN?and how many in the White House?
or the senat or some deputy that killed someone or such thing...?

Huh?

In article ,
"Mark Leuck" writes:

"petem" wrote in message
.. .
Wow a few ass hole (froma country controled by american....cyprus) made
money out of the good will of an organisation and the whole thing is bad..

Cyprus controled by americans? Uh no it's been partitioned by Greece and
Turkey for the past 50+ years

that way of thinking mean that Bush was aware of all the barbarian act on
Irak poeple in the so famous prison and should resigned..
SO what do you think of it?

I have no idea what you just said

the whole white house is not corrupted, just a few bad apple..
The same for the UN..but how many corruption or such unetical act did you
heard of in the UN?and how many in the White House?
or the senat or some deputy that killed someone or such thing...?

Huh?

I'd like to thank our Canadian Poster, petem.
Every time that I fall into despair about the failures of the
U.S. Educational System(s) and our ability to keep ahead of the rest
of the World, somebody like petem shows up, and reveals that we aren't
falling behind at all.

--
Pete Stickney

Without data, all you have are opinions