Owning more expensive than renting

Matt Barrow wrote:

Let's have a show of hands from all those who drive a Hertz (okay...Budget)
rental car instead of your owned/leased vehicle?

We rent one every time we need to travel more than about 100 miles. It's sort of
the opposite of airplane rentals. We own high-mileage vehicles that aren't real
comfortable (read "small") on trips. That's great for local driving but not so
hot for a drive to (say) Tennessee with a load of luggage.

George Patterson
The desire for safety stands against every great and noble enterprise.

On 19-Dec-2004, "Matt Barrow" wrote:

Now I'm looking for all weather capability, thinking of a turbo-prop.
We're putting together two projects to build a total 55 houses in two
towns....more than we now build in a year. Budget looks like $9.75M.
There's usually three or four of us that have to travel together, 550nm
and 600nm
.
Any suggestions?


Nice problem to have! Sounds like the ideal mission profile for a single
turboprop (Meridian, TBM-700, PC-12), or maybe a Malibu Mirage. However,
either of the Pipers might have a problem making a 600 nm trip nonstop with
4 aboard against a strong headwind and with IFR reserves.
--
-Elliott Drucker

Suggestion Matt... I don't know crapola about turboprops, but I have
spent my whole life banging around airports... If you go to an all
weather turboprop consider hiring an ATP rated pilot with a degree in
business or engineering, etc., who can be your copilot and can work in
the business when not flying... If you and your partners are going to
take on a multimillion dollar project with short timelines, you will
have far more on your mind than having fun flying - especially those
VOR-A approaches with circle to land in nasty weather, when you
absolutely, positively, have to be there...
Denny

"Jon Kraus" wrote in message
...
I must say that the convenience
of having your own airplane to go to when ever you want is worth a few
bucks.

I find walking out to a rental airplane that someone else has already
washed, fueled, fixed, annualed, etc. etc. etc. pretty damn convenient. There
are two sides to every story.

That said, I envy owners and hope to be one some day.


Vaughn

In article ,
"Vaughn" writes:

I find walking out to a rental airplane that someone else has already
washed, fueled, fixed, annualed, etc. etc. etc. pretty damn convenient.
There
are two sides to every story.

And perhaps landed HARD and had trouble with one of the instruments and choose
not to say anything.
It's that knowledge of "who landed my plane last" that caused me to buy my
Archer 8 years ago and I have had no regrets though the cost for the 1000 hrs
during that period have cost about $74 per hour on cost alone. BUT I have
added a 430 and a 330 transponder and wingtip lights and secondary air and
maybe some other things that don't come to mind right now. Subtract these
costs and you get about $60 per hour. Not bad for an Archer that is always
waiting for you!

Chuck

In article ,
(PaulaJay1) writes:

And perhaps landed HARD and had trouble with one of the instruments and
choose
not to say anything.
It's that knowledge of "who landed my plane last" that caused me to buy my
Archer 8 years ago and I have had no regrets though the cost for the 1000 hrs
during that period have cost about $74 per hour on cost alone. BUT I have
added a 430 and a 330 transponder and wingtip lights and secondary air and
maybe some other things that don't come to mind right now. Subtract these
costs and you get about $60 per hour. Not bad for an Archer that is always
waiting for you!

Chuck


Forgot to figure in the engine and airframe time adjustments that adds adds
about $10k for the 1000 hours making the overall hourly at about $70. Still
not bad.

Chuck

"PaulaJay1" wrote in message
...
In article ,
"Vaughn" writes:

I find walking out to a rental airplane that someone else has already
washed, fueled, fixed, annualed, etc. etc. etc. pretty damn convenient.
There
are two sides to every story.

And perhaps landed HARD and had trouble with one of the instruments and
choose
not to say anything.

There's a reason rental CARS are not kept very long: multiple drivers wear
them out much more quickly and DO NOT drive them like they would their own.
:~)


--
Matt
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Matthew W. Barrow
Site-Fill Homes, LLC.
Montrose, CO

I find walking out to a rental airplane that someone else has already
washed, fueled, fixed, annualed, etc. etc. etc. pretty damn convenient.
There
are two sides to every story.

Wow -- the rental planes I used to fly we

a) Clapped out
b) Unwashed -- for years
c) Rarely fueled by anyone except me
d) Had lots of things wrong -- or, at least, not quite right

And if it was hangared (few were), I had to drag the thing out of a group
hangar from behind a couple of other planes.

There is nothing about renting that I miss -- except at annual time.

;-)
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

Speaking of washing planes. How do you get your plane washed in the
winter? Mine could use it and I have no idea what to do. Thanks!!

Jon Kraus
PP-ASEL-IA
Dirty Mooney Owner


Jay Honeck wrote:

I find walking out to a rental airplane that someone else has already
washed, fueled, fixed, annualed, etc. etc. etc. pretty damn convenient.
There
are two sides to every story.


Wow -- the rental planes I used to fly we

a) Clapped out
b) Unwashed -- for years
c) Rarely fueled by anyone except me
d) Had lots of things wrong -- or, at least, not quite right

And if it was hangared (few were), I had to drag the thing out of a group
hangar from behind a couple of other planes.

There is nothing about renting that I miss -- except at annual time.

;-)

Speaking of washing planes. How do you get your plane washed in the
winter? Mine could use it and I have no idea what to do.

I *never* wash my planes (or motorcycles) with soap and water. Everything
is done with Lemon Pledge and cloth diapers.

Unfortunately they no longer make pump-spray Pledge, and the aerosol stuff
is just not right. (It comes out in a foam, instead of liquid.)

Luckily, I bought 6 cases of the stuff before they stopped making it -- so
I'm good for a few more years. ;-)

Anyway, Pledge works on any above-freezing day. The paint looks new, and so
does the plexiglass. I haven't had to find a substitute yet, so if anyone
finds an equally economical solution, please post it here.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"