OLC Down?

Ramy wrote:
Thanks Max. Couple of more issues I noticed but I assume those are known issues is that the optimization distance calculation does not always matches SeeYou/OLC, especially the FAI triangle optimization does not seem to work right in most of my flights. If these are not known issues I can open tickets.

Triangle calculation is wrong, known issue, I have spent a week or so
on attempting to fix it, but it will take another week or two (when I
have the time). When the algorithm is fixed, all flights will be
recalculated.

The OLC "classic" distance should be correct, but it does not take
engine use into account yet.

Don't forget, SkyLines is in a very early stage of development. We
encourage everybody to upload as many IGC files as possible, but
expect many bugs and usability problems. Development of this project
started only 2 months ago! But look what we achieved so far, compared
to OLC after more than 10 years.

Max

I get the request entity too large message, when trying to upload 3 files of in total about 600 kB

On Thursday, August 2, 2012 1:06:40 PM UTC-7, Max Kellermann wrote:
Ramy wrote:

Thanks Max. Couple of more issues I noticed but I assume those are known issues is that the optimization distance calculation does not always matches SeeYou/OLC, especially the FAI triangle optimization does not seem to work right in most of my flights. If these are not known issues I can open tickets.



Triangle calculation is wrong, known issue, I have spent a week or so

on attempting to fix it, but it will take another week or two (when I

have the time). When the algorithm is fixed, all flights will be

recalculated.



The OLC "classic" distance should be correct, but it does not take

engine use into account yet.



Don't forget, SkyLines is in a very early stage of development. We

encourage everybody to upload as many IGC files as possible, but

expect many bugs and usability problems. Development of this project

started only 2 months ago! But look what we achieved so far, compared

to OLC after more than 10 years.



Max

Very impressive especially giving the short time since inception. I am sure once most bugs are fixed it will be a good alternative to OLC, especially for downloading flights for various projects and for sharing flights with non pilots such as on facebook. The OLC default map is pathetic while the google map is restricted to registered pilots only, making sharing with non pilots close to useless. I can see OLC remains as the online contest platform, at least for the time being, but I would prefer skylines as a sharing platform.
Perhaps at some point it can be enhanced to also serve as personal logbook by extracting all the typical logbook data from the igc file so pilots can simply download and print their flights in a logbook format, finally eliminating the need to manually enter your flights in your logbook.

Thanks to the XCSoar team for their effort,

Ramy

On Aug 2, 3:53*pm, Ramy wrote:
On Thursday, August 2, 2012 1:06:40 PM UTC-7, Max Kellermann wrote:
Ramy wrote:

Thanks Max. Couple of more issues I noticed but I assume those are known issues is that the optimization distance calculation does not always matches SeeYou/OLC, especially the FAI triangle optimization does not seem to work right in most of my flights. If these are not known issues I can open tickets.

Triangle calculation is wrong, known issue, I have spent a week or so

on attempting to fix it, but it will take another week or two (when I

have the time). *When the algorithm is fixed, all flights will be

recalculated.

The OLC "classic" distance should be correct, but it does not take

engine use into account yet.

Don't forget, SkyLines is in a very early stage of development. *We

encourage everybody to upload as many IGC files as possible, but

expect many bugs and usability problems. *Development of this project

started only 2 months ago! *But look what we achieved so far, compared

to OLC after more than 10 years.

Max

Very impressive especially giving the short time since inception. I am sure once most bugs are fixed it will be a good alternative to OLC, especially for downloading flights for various projects and for sharing flights with non pilots such as on facebook. The OLC default map is pathetic while the google map is restricted to registered pilots only, making sharing with non pilots close to useless. I can see OLC remains as the online contest platform, at least for the time being, but I would prefer skylines as a sharing platform.
Perhaps at some point it can be enhanced to also serve as personal logbook by extracting all the typical logbook data from the igc file so pilots can simply download and print their flights in a logbook format, finally eliminating the need to manually enter your flights in your logbook.

Thanks to the XCSoar team for their effort,

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Two 'issues'.
1. The duration algorithm seems to have a problem with rolling over
GMT 'midnight'. Applying the GMT offset might fix that.
2. I have a fixed gear Janus C. Is that 'mit EZ' or 'ohne EZ'?

2. I have a fixed gear Janus C. Is that 'mit EZ' or 'ohne EZ'?

'mit EZ' retractable gear

'ohne EZ' fixed gear

Grider Pirate wrote:
Two 'issues'.
1. The duration algorithm seems to have a problem with rolling over
GMT 'midnight'. Applying the GMT offset might fix that.

I think Ramy mentioned this already - please write a ticket, that'll
be easy to fix.

http://bugs.xcsoar.org/newticket

2. I have a fixed gear Janus C. Is that 'mit EZ' or 'ohne EZ'?

We imported the German model list, that's why labels are German -
something that is worth a ticket, too, should be English so everybody
understands it.

Grider Pirate, I tried to write a ticket, too. Registration appeared to fail, but it actually did work, so I was able to report that only the top 20 clubs, pilots and airports appear in the Rankings.

On a different ticket I requested that the Skyline team add the ability to upload Cambridge CAI format files directly. I'm sure that this will help out many pilots, judging from all the complaints directed at OLC because they no longer support CAI file format.

That aside, Skylines is very nice! Sure, it's rough because it's under development, but I already like it a lot better than OLC! At least the menu structure is simple, easy to understand, and in English!

Thank you, Skyline team! Keep up the good work!

-John

On Thursday, August 2, 2012 3:16:41 PM UTC-4, Grider Pirate wrote:
I uploaded a couple files, and when I first looked at them, they were

fine. *I just tried looking at my flight for 21/7/2012, and the

display comes up in a country far from Tonopah, Nevada, USA.



I tried to open a ticket, but that requires yet another username/

password, apparently.

Grider Pirate wrote:
1. The duration algorithm seems to have a problem with rolling over
GMT 'midnight'. Applying the GMT offset might fix that.

FYI, I've just fixed this bug. Midnight rollover is now handled
correctly.

On Aug 6, 3:21*am, Max Kellermann wrote:
Grider Pirate wrote:
1. *The duration algorithm seems to have a problem with rolling over
GMT 'midnight'. *Applying the GMT offset might fix that.

FYI, I've just fixed this bug. *Midnight rollover is now handled
correctly.

Great! If I might make a suggestion.... make it easy for people to
make donations. A tab somewhere on the home page would be good.
I bugged the XCSoar team for quite a while before I found a way help
support.

Grider Pirate wrote:
Great! If I might make a suggestion.... make it easy for people to
make donations. A tab somewhere on the home page would be good.
I bugged the XCSoar team for quite a while before I found a way help
support.

Thanks, but we don't need/want donations currently. Eventually, we
will have to move to a bigger server, then we'll need some money, but
not yet.