NYC Help?

On Tue, 25 May 2004, Andrew Gideon wrote:

Gary Drescher wrote:

Hm, is 500' enough separation for wake turbulence? The airliner was
presumably flying well below cruise speed.

Approaching Colts Neck from the north, I occasionally get Newark departures
passing underneath, usually w/in 1000'. I'm shocked that ATC doesn't warn
them about wake turbulance from my 172.

A few times on very calm days I have felt wake turbulence from the 152 or
172 ahead of me on final! Tower, on one slow, still day, even issued me a
mock wake turb warning from the 152 ahead on final!

Heavies, though... I don't think they've got much to worry about from us
spamcans...

Brian.

A few times on very calm days I have felt wake turbulence from the 152 or
172 ahead of me on final! Tower, on one slow, still day, even issued me a
mock wake turb warning from the 152 ahead on final!

a year or two back some guy on this list flew into IAH with jets in
front and behind him. I remember him saying how the tower
told the 737 (?) behind him, "Continental XXX, you are 7 miles behind a
Cessna 172, caution wake turbulence."


Kind of like when the tower told me while on short final of some birds.
I didn't know what to say so I simply said, "traffic in sight."
My CFI looked at me like I was some fool but what was I supposed to
say?

Gerald

"Toks Desalu" \

snip

Land at Teterboro. Tell Teterboro tower that you want to do a bit of
sightseeing down the Hudson. They'll hand you off to LGA or Newark tower.
Enjoy. Call the FBOs at Teterboro. Get the numbers from AOPA. (You *are*
a member, right?) Often, either Signature or Millionair will give you a
free night's parking if you fill up. Ask them to drive you to the bus stop,
or walk if the weather's nice. It's a 15 minute hike. The bus will take
you directly to the Port Authority at 42nd and 4th. Cost is about 7 bucks.
Here's the schedule: http://www.njtransit.com/pdf/bus/T0161.pdf

Couple things:

Don't try flying IFR alone unless you're *really* quick at changing
frequencies. It's a handful.

Check for TFRs.

Use GPS. If it's busy, you won't have time to decipher the VTA.

I've done all this many times. On a clear, busy night, the number of planes
around you makes the sky look like a scene from "Close Encounters".

Le Moo
www.aerobatics.ca

Happy Dog wrote:

Land at Teterboro. Tell Teterboro tower that you want to do a bit of
sightseeing down the Hudson. They'll hand you off to LGA or Newark tower.
Enjoy. Call the FBOs at Teterboro. Get the numbers from AOPA. (You *are*
a member, right?) Often, either Signature or Millionair will give you a
free night's parking if you fill up. Ask them to drive you to the bus stop,
or walk if the weather's nice. It's a 15 minute hike. The bus will take
you directly to the Port Authority at 42nd and 4th.

Isn't the Port Authority bus terminal on the west side, somewhere around
40th and 8th?


All the best,


David

"David Megginson" wrote in message
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Happy Dog wrote:

Land at Teterboro. Tell Teterboro tower that you want to do a bit of
sightseeing down the Hudson. They'll hand you off to LGA or Newark
tower.
Enjoy. Call the FBOs at Teterboro. Get the numbers from AOPA. (You
*are*
a member, right?) Often, either Signature or Millionair will give you a
free night's parking if you fill up. Ask them to drive you to the bus
stop,
or walk if the weather's nice. It's a 15 minute hike. The bus will
take
you directly to the Port Authority at 42nd and 4th.

Isn't the Port Authority bus terminal on the west side, somewhere around
40th and 8th?


LOL... yep.. there is no 4th avenue. The avenues in midtown go like this
(list is from east to west):

York
1st
2nd
3rd
Lexington
Park
Madison
5th
6th
7th
8th
9th
10th
11th

Thomas J. Paladino Jr. wrote:

LOL... yep.. there is no 4th avenue. The avenues in midtown go like this
(list is from east to west):

York
1st
2nd
3rd
Lexington
Park
Madison
5th
6th

(Avenue of the Americas)

7th
8th
9th
10th
11th


Don't forget Broadway, slicing through the grid. Depending on where in
Midtown you are, there's also 12th, and a tiny bit of Dyer.

"Mateo" wrote in message
...
Thomas J. Paladino Jr. wrote:

LOL... yep.. there is no 4th avenue. The avenues in midtown go like this
(list is from east to west):

York
1st
2nd
3rd
Lexington
Park
Madison
5th
6th

(Avenue of the Americas)

7th
8th
9th
10th
11th


Don't forget Broadway, slicing through the grid. Depending on where in
Midtown you are, there's also 12th, and a tiny bit of Dyer.

6th avenue *is* Avenue of the Americas, just like 7th is Fashion Ave.

"Thomas J. Paladino Jr." wrote in message
...

"David Megginson" wrote in message
.cable.rogers.com...
Happy Dog wrote:

Land at Teterboro. Tell Teterboro tower that you want to do a bit of
sightseeing down the Hudson. They'll hand you off to LGA or Newark
tower.
Enjoy. Call the FBOs at Teterboro. Get the numbers from AOPA. (You
*are*
a member, right?) Often, either Signature or Millionair will give you
a
free night's parking if you fill up. Ask them to drive you to the bus
stop,
or walk if the weather's nice. It's a 15 minute hike. The bus will
take
you directly to the Port Authority at 42nd and 4th.

Isn't the Port Authority bus terminal on the west side, somewhere around
40th and 8th?


LOL... yep.. there is no 4th avenue. The avenues in midtown go like this
(list is from east to west):

York
1st
2nd
3rd
Lexington
Park
Madison
5th
6th
7th
8th
9th
10th
11th


East End Avenue is east of York on the upper east side, from 79th street to
about 88th street. That's where Gracie Mansion is, the mayor's official
residence (and where this billionaire mayor doesn't live).

LOL... yep.. there is no 4th avenue. The avenues in midtown go like this



There is a 4th Avenue down on the Lower East Side, however--at about 13th
Street.
Photo-Tech Camera repair is at that intersection . . . best camera repair shop
in NY.
www.Rosspilot.com

LOL... yep.. there is no 4th avenue. The avenues in midtown go like this



There is a 4th Avenue down on the Lower East Side, however--at about 13th
Street.
Photo-Tech Camera repair is at that intersection . . . best camera repair shop
in NY.
www.Rosspilot.com

Starts below 14th street. Also don't forget Avenue A, B, and C. (York is ave A below
14th as well).

Then when you get up to Central park you have Central Park West, Columbus and Amerstam
Avenues etc... There are another two dozen or so miscellaneous N/S avenues thrown in at
various places.