Veering left after touchdown

On Tue, 29 Jun 2004 01:34:15 GMT, Greg Esres
spoketh unto us:

During landing it is Very important to keep that ball centered.

My God, no! The ball is the LAST thing you should be looking at
during a landing operation. Look outside!

stalling above the runway is scarey enough without the added troubes
caused by being uncoordinated

Stalling a few feet above the runway is no big deal.


Who said anything about looking at the ball? if you are flying
coordinated, then the ball is centered, isn't it?

did you get as far as reading my statement:

"Go up to 7500 feet and practice stalls. lots and lots of stalls,
Power
on and power off. keeping special watch on that turn coordinator.
soon, you will notice that when you are landing, paying attention to
the things other then the Turn Coordinator, if you glance at it, it
will be centered 100% of the time without you even thinking about it."

Practice up high. that way, down low, you just do.

I say Practice Stalls because that forces you to make sure you are
coordinated.

as far as crosswind, i did not see that he said anything special about
crosswinds in the original post.
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Patrick W. Sencenich
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"I am NOT 30... i am 24.95 plus shipping and handling."

..During landing it is Very important to keep that ball centered

I just got back from a trip, and read this entire thread. What a CROCK! In
fact almost all good landings are made with the ball NOT in the center.

The ONLY time the ball will be in the center on landing is when the wind is
DIRECTLY down the runway. Since that virtually NEVER happens, the vast
majority of landings will be in a slip or coming out of a crab. Both will
result in an un-coordinated touch down, which is completely normal, desired,
safe, and required of all pilots everywhere, in any airplane (except an
aircoupe, Cessna 180, or B-52 with castering wheels), large or small.

BTW who would ever be looking at the ball?

Karl


"Patrick w. Sencenich" wrote in message
...
as my CFI told me over and over again -
"GET ON THE BALL!"
in reference to the turn coordinator

I ran into the same problem.

now in a right rudder aircraft, when you take all the power out before
touchdown, the prop is still rotating and you still have some
p-factor, torque, etc.

During landing it is Very important to keep that ball centered. When
the CFI is not yelling at you every time the ball gets too close to
the line does not mean that it is any less important.

1. stalling above the runway is scarey enough without the added
troubes caused by being uncoordinated

2. your wheels hate being side loaded and will one day rebel.

you say "Almost Immediatly" which tells me that you are touching down
uncoordinated.

to work on this habit, and this worked for me.....

Go up to 7500 feet and practice stalls. lots and lots of stalls, Power
on and power off. keeping special watch on that turn coordinator.
soon, you will notice that when you are landing, paying attention to
the things other then the Turn Coordinator, if you glance at it, it
will be centered 100% of the time without you even thinking about it.



On Sun, 27 Jun 2004 21:04:19 -0400, "Karl Treier"
spoketh unto us:

OK so 4 or so flight hours after attaining my PPL, I find a problem i
don't
recall experiencing during flight training at all. Hoping for some
insight
or maybe i'll consider a few recurrent hours with my CFI.

Anyway basically the problem is that I land straight (or so I think) and
almost immediately after touchdown I start to veer to the left
(disconcerting for passengers), now on LUK's 150ft wide runway no problem
I
get it back on centerline but i'm concerned about thi.s happening on a
75ft
or narrower runway.



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Patrick W. Sencenich
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"I am NOT 30... i am 24.95 plus shipping and handling."