Looking for Transciever suggestions

Jay,

Except that here in the USA, it is sometimes necessary to talk to FSS on
a comm frequency and listen on the VOR frequency.


Well, yeah, I guess that stuff is still around in some places. Would you
use it in an emergency?

--
Thomas Borchert (EDDH)

Icom have an awesome reputation, and because of the current competition
their Navcom (A23) is only $50.00 more than their Com (A5)
so although the Comm isn't worth the original upcharge, it's cerainly
worth the extra $50.00.
BUT - go to a third party vendor and buy the AA battery back. Icom only
comes with a rechargeable battery pack - not much use if you are sitting
halfway up a mountain waiting to be rescued - but if you have the pack,
plus a decent supply of AA batteries, you now have yourself a good
emergency radio - in addition to it's everyday uses.

Tony

--

Tony Roberts
PP-ASEL
VFR OTT
Night
Almost Instrument
Cessna 172H C-GICE



In article ,
(Lockrdg) wrote:

Having experienced and successfully survived my first complete electrical
failure, hence no radios (at night mind you), I am looking for suggestions as
to which hand-held transcievers I might looking into buying.

All suggestions are welcome...

Thanks in advance.

tony roberts wrote in message news:nospam-69B6F8.23552803072004@shawnews...
BUT - go to a third party vendor and buy the AA battery back. Icom only
comes with a rechargeable battery pack - not much use if you are sitting
halfway up a mountain waiting to be rescued - but if you have the pack,
plus a decent supply of AA batteries, you now have yourself a good
emergency radio - in addition to it's everyday uses.

The rechargable is perfect for the daily J-3 Cub flyer who uses it as
his primary radio (that's the reason I bought mine) but the AA battery
pack is best for the emergency radio (why I use it now).

I am also looking for a portable, Sporty's seems to have some of the
best prices right now, especially for the Icom A23 @ $369
The Vertex 210 appears to have most of the A23's features, but is a
lot less expensive ($279). Why?

Also, with the A23, is a separate PTT necessary to use the headset
adapter? I'm not really clear how the headset adapter works with my
headset (DC H10-13.4) and the A23.

Thanks,
Tom



On 03 Jul 2004 01:46:42 GMT, (Lockrdg) wrote:

Having experienced and successfully survived my first complete electrical
failure, hence no radios (at night mind you), I am looking for suggestions as
to which hand-held transcievers I might looking into buying.

All suggestions are welcome...

Thanks in advance.

On 6 Jul 2004 23:59:54 -0500, John Smith wrote:

Also, with the A23, is a separate PTT necessary to use the headset
adapter? I'm not really clear how the headset adapter works with my
headset (DC H10-13.4) and the A23.

It was with my Yaseu (Vertex).

I think.

It's such a convenience, and I've used it for three years now, that I
really can't remember. Previously, I tried used the radio as a
handheld, which meant putting the engine to idle every time. Even then
it didn't work worth a damn.

all the best -- Dan Ford
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John,

The Vertex 210 appears to have most of the A23's features, but is a
lot less expensive ($279). Why?


Because someone wants to make a business through volume, not price?

--
Thomas Borchert (EDDH)

John Smith wrote in message . ..
I am also looking for a portable, Sporty's seems to have some of the
best prices right now, especially for the Icom A23 @ $369
The Vertex 210 appears to have most of the A23's features, but is a
lot less expensive ($279). Why?

Because it's a free market and that's what they think they can get for
it.

My own experience with Yaesu is that performance leaves a lot to be
desired. I've found that a Sporty's even with a rubber ducky works
nearly as well as a panel-mount nav and Yaesu would only pick up a
VOR when it was close enough that I could hit it by throwing the
Yaesu at it. Due to the miserable nav performance, I sent the Yaesu
back to the manufacturer and had them check and adjust it. Upon its
return, I found it worked not the slightest bit better. When it finally
disappeared at an air show, I was more relieved than angry and replaced
it with an Icom A-5.


Also, with the A23, is a separate PTT necessary to use the headset
adapter? I'm not really clear how the headset adapter works with my
headset (DC H10-13.4) and the A23.


No external switch is needed. It's just a convenience to have a PTT on the
yoke.

Thanks for the tips everyone. I'm going to go ahead and get the Icom.
The A5 looks like a deal, but when you add in the headset adapter,
it's almost the same price, plus you get the (limited) nav capability
in the A23. A23 it is...




On 7 Jul 2004 06:45:17 -0700, (RM) wrote:

John Smith wrote in message . ..
I am also looking for a portable, Sporty's seems to have some of the
best prices right now, especially for the Icom A23 @ $369
The Vertex 210 appears to have most of the A23's features, but is a
lot less expensive ($279). Why?

Because it's a free market and that's what they think they can get for
it.

My own experience with Yaesu is that performance leaves a lot to be
desired. I've found that a Sporty's even with a rubber ducky works
nearly as well as a panel-mount nav and Yaesu would only pick up a
VOR when it was close enough that I could hit it by throwing the
Yaesu at it. Due to the miserable nav performance, I sent the Yaesu
back to the manufacturer and had them check and adjust it. Upon its
return, I found it worked not the slightest bit better. When it finally
disappeared at an air show, I was more relieved than angry and replaced
it with an Icom A-5.


Also, with the A23, is a separate PTT necessary to use the headset
adapter? I'm not really clear how the headset adapter works with my
headset (DC H10-13.4) and the A23.


No external switch is needed. It's just a convenience to have a PTT on the
yoke.

On 7 Jul 2004 06:45:17 -0700, (RM) wrote:

My own experience with Yaesu is that performance leaves a lot to be
desired. I've found that a Sporty's even with a rubber ducky works
nearly as well as a panel-mount nav and Yaesu would only pick up a
VOR when it was close enough that I could hit it by throwing the
Yaesu at it.

I had quite the opposite experience. I was never happy with the
Sporty's handheld, and I love the Yaseu.

The Sporty's had the nav feature; I only used it the one time, to see
if it worked (it did). It seemed pointless to me, when I had eyeballs
and the GPS, and I found it distracting in flight. So when I ditched
the Sporty's, I deliberately looked at radios that were comm only. I
bought the Yaseu instead of the Icom because it was a deal cheaper.
It's been as staunch and effective as my Davey Clark headset.

As with my Garmin, I don't find it particularly intuitive, and I use
them most every week. Perhaps it's just me. (The Sporty's wasn't any
better, and it was hard to see the display in bright light, which is
what I get most of the time when I am flying.)


all the best -- Dan Ford
email: (put Cubdriver in subject line)

The Warbird's Forum www.warbirdforum.com
The Piper Cub Forum www.pipercubforum.com
Viva Bush! weblog www.vivabush.org

For the occasion when all the electrons die at once, I have 2
portables.

I bought the new ICOM sport model transceiver (small size, light
weight). I keep alkaline batteries in it because they retain a charge
better than rechargeables and I need it only for emergencies. I also
have an antenna loop in my Com2 under the panel so that I can
disconnect the panel receiver and connect the Icom to the external
antenna.

For navigation I have a Garmin Pilot GPS III that can sit on the
glareshield and runs 8-10 hours on 4 AA alkalines.