things to carry

On Tue, 6 Jul 2004 21:45:26 -0700, Brian Burger
wrote:

Related to the 'what survival equipment do you carry' questions:

How many people here have any sort of First Aid/CPR training, or have
considered getting some?

If you've had training, are you legally & practically current in it? A CPR
ticket is legally valid for three years - practical currency, as always,
is another matter!

I did a Red Cross Standard First Aid & CPR 'C' course in November 2003;
I've skimmed through my textbook & class-notes a few times since, most
recently when I burnt my ankle with v. hot tea!

There's a St. John's Ambulance Wilderness First Aid course here in town
this fall that I'm seriously considering signing up for, too. Outside of
accidents in the hanger, pilots could well face a wilderness first aid
situation after a forced landing, where 'make the victim comfortable then
call 911' just isn't an option.

Compared to the costs of actually flying, these are inexpensive courses;
the Red Cross Standard First Aid was $80 Cdn (~$60 USD); the Wilderness
one is $180 Cdn (~$140 USD).

So, what First Aid training do people have?

Brian.

dont go overboard on the training most of it is quite simple.

1. if you think you are going to prang you have the wrong attitude to
flying and maintenance. your certified engine has no reason not to
make 2000 hours trouble free if the maintenance is sound. no reason at
all. prevention is far better than experience when it comes to
accidents.

2. first aid is quite simple for 99% of cases.

if a person is on their way out of life firstly their breathing stops
or their airway gets obstructed. 300 seconds later (roughly) their
heart runs out of oxygen and stops.

the heart never stops while they are breathing.

the priority for first aid is to keep the airway clear and
unobstructed.
if some one is out of it, roll them on their side, gently move the
head back and pull their jaw up to keep the trachea open.
make sure they havent swallowed their tongue.
they will be quite comfortable in that position for a few hours.

all of the rest of the mickey mouse training is really devoted to half
of the remaining 1% of situations and can be looked at in that light
quite competently.

3. gentle pressure to the area will stop most bleeding

4. it helps the thinking considerably if you dont panic.

there you go. that's the crux of a 2 day $120 dollar first aid course.
just as an aid to getting the priorities right, in a year working in a
busy hospital with really frail, injured and sick people I've never
needed to give first aid ever. in your flying you'll be dealing with
healthy people.

Stealth Pilot

"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
news:TATGc.40987$Oq2.35143@attbi_s52...
We have friends who have given each of their family members distinctive
whistles and they use their whistles to locate each other in stores and
parking lots.

[...]
I can't imagine anything more rude, or annoying.

Nothing? Nothing at all?

Gee...I'd say that shows a considerable lack of imagination.

(I do agree that using whistles in a public place sure seems pretty rude and
annoying to me though...sure would hate to be the person standing near one
of those folks when they decide they need to make contact. And here I
thought people yelling into their cell phones or FRS radios was annoying).

On Wed, 7 Jul 2004 07:43:29 -0700, "C J Campbell"
wrote:

I don't know. I have never been around them in public places, but that is
what they say they do. They seem to think it is less rude than shouting for
each other.

Should I recommend that they stay at Alexis Park Inn? :-)

I know people who bought a set of those tiny walkie talkies to keep
track of each other in crowded places. Seems a bit more neighborly
than blowing a whistle in a mall. Range is a couple of miles outside.

Corky Scott

"Brian C." wrote in message
.. .
Add a signal mirror too. Very useful


Or a CD. An Oregon sheriff on search and rescue showed a group of us that
trick. He used an AOL advertising CD with the sides shaved off to make it
conveniently small (though still bigger than the usual signal mirror.) Easy
to use, free, and much lighter than the double-glass ones usually sold for
the purpose.

Kathy

He used an AOL advertising CD with the sides shaved off to make it
conveniently small (though still bigger than the usual signal mirror.) Easy
to use, free, and much lighter than the double-glass ones usually sold for
the purpose.


See that? AOL *IS* good for something!

:-)



www.Rosspilot.com

I can't imagine anything more rude, or annoying.

I don't know. I have never been around them in public places, but that is
what they say they do. They seem to think it is less rude than shouting
for
each other.

Should I recommend that they stay at Alexis Park Inn? :-)

Sure, but they'll have to check their whistles in at the front desk...

;-)
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

Cub Driver wrote:
5. Flashlight with good batteries (extras & bulb)

A wise hiker once pointed out that there is nothing worth seeing in
the New Hampshire mountains at night--and if there is, you're better
off not seeing it.

If it is dark and your eyes are already night adapted, the last thing
you want to do is turn on a light unless it is absolutly necessary.

Cub Driver wrote:
11. Mosquito repellent!
(In fact, I don't carry several of the items you mention, but I sure
carry mosquito repellent.)

Dan, what works best in your neck of the woods?

Brian Burger wrote:
Related to the 'what survival equipment do you carry' questions:
How many people here have any sort of First Aid/CPR training, or have
considered getting some?

I do.

If you've had training, are you legally & practically current in it? A CPR
ticket is legally valid for three years - practical currency, as always,
is another matter!

I am an aquatics instructor and lifeguard at our community pool and rec
center. We have monthly recurrent training sessions and an annual for
the blood borne pathogens lecture, CPR, AED (automatic external
defibulator), advanced first aid, etc.

On Tue, 06 Jul 2004 08:02:40 -0700, Bob Gardner wrote:

I hope you got a rescue whistle, not a "police" whistle with a pea. Rescue
whistles can be heard for half a mile and are available at suppliers of
outdoor equipment.


Good to know. I didn't realize there was a distinction.

Thanks.