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Old December 26th 04, 04:03 PM
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Ramapriya, this website will answer many of your questions.

http://www.av8n.com/how/

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Old December 26th 04, 07:30 PM
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Brian Burger wrote:

"There are two categories of tailwheel pilot: those who have groundlooped
their aircraft, and those who will."

Been there, done that, just once.


So far, the only time I've done it was deliberately. Landed long on a grass
strip. The trees were approaching rapidly, so about 60' short of them, I locked
the right brake. She spun around just as advertised. The left wingtip got within
3' of the ground. The next time I changed the tires (years later), I found
blades of grass trapped between the bead to the left tire and the rim.

Don't mistake that for a claim that I've kept the plane under perfect control
during all my landings. :-)

George Patterson
The desire for safety stands against every great and noble enterprise.
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Old December 26th 04, 07:31 PM
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Jay Honeck wrote:

Sadly, it rattled him so badly that he absolutely disappeared off the face
of the earth after that episode. I've never seen him again, and I presume
he's quit flying.


Probably still making installments on the damage bill.

George Patterson
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Old December 27th 04, 03:42 AM
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"Brian Burger" wrote

the next thing I knew I was rolling down one of 09's taxiways and Tower
was saying, "Juliet Tango Mike, you OK out there?"

Brian


The proper response for that situation should have been, "Give me a minute.
I ain't done crashin', yet!" VBG
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Jim in NC


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Old December 27th 04, 05:21 AM
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On Sun, 26 Dec 2004, Morgans wrote:


"Brian Burger" wrote

the next thing I knew I was rolling down one of 09's taxiways and Tower
was saying, "Juliet Tango Mike, you OK out there?"

Brian


The proper response for that situation should have been, "Give me a minute.
I ain't done crashin', yet!" VBG


grin I've heard that joke too; thankfully it didn't really apply in my
case - no damage to self or plane!

I think my reply was something like, "Uh, yeah Tower, I'm OK; I'd like to
switch to Ground for the taxi back to 09 for another takeoff..."

The next two landings went fine; Tower might have been holding their
breath a bit though! A strong coffee after landing helped me a great
deal...

Brian.
www.warbard.ca/avgas/
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Old December 28th 04, 03:24 PM
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Wheelbarrowing and porpoising are very different things. In
wheelbarrowing, insufficient back pressure leads to directional
instability. A fairly common response is to release even more back
pressure and concentrate on trying to steer, which immediately makes
things worse as the airplane swerves sown the runway in a series of
overcorrections.

In porpoising, the aircraft's nosewheel hits, causing it to bounce in
the air, drop to the runway, and repeat. This is often a divergent
oscillation -- the amplitude increases with each bounce until either
back pressure is applied or the energy decreases sufficiently. It
usually happens on touchdown.

A nosewheel landing usually results in a porpoise. Releasing back
pressure on rollout (often in crosswinds) is the normal way to initiate
wheelbarrowing. On Cessnas, retracting flaps for a touch and go
without adding back pressure can start the wheelbarrow.

Paul

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Old December 28th 04, 09:43 PM
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On 28 Dec 2004 07:24:15 -0800, wrote:

In porpoising, the aircraft's nosewheel hits,


I probably shouldn't say this, but taildraggers can porpoise too.

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Old December 28th 04, 09:52 PM
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In article ,
Cub Driver wrote:

On 28 Dec 2004 07:24:15 -0800, wrote:

In porpoising, the aircraft's nosewheel hits,


I probably shouldn't say this, but taildraggers can porpoise too.



Just remember the old adage:
"A nosegear is nNOT a *landing* gear!
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Old December 28th 04, 10:08 PM
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On Sun, 26 Dec 2004 00:17:49 -0500, "Morgans"
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"G.R. Patterson III" wrote

And doing it (nosewheel landings) in front a a thousand people or so is
embarrassing. Flaring properly is an excellent way of ensuring that this
never happens to you.

George Patterson



George, is this a confession? g ducking and running


Welll... on one of our Young Eagle Saturdays for EAA Chapter 1093 we
had a Beech Musketeer, or Mousekateer start a porpoise in front of
about a hundred or so spectators., many of which were getting to send
their kids out for a ride. He busted the nose gear off on the third
bounce. What an impression that must have made.

To top it off he landed down wind. Fortunately it was a light wind.

We explained to the audience he wasn't any one any of us knew.
Probably from one of those big cities.

Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member)
(N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair)
www.rogerhalstead.com

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Old December 28th 04, 10:10 PM
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On Sun, 26 Dec 2004 22:42:18 -0500, "Morgans"
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"Brian Burger" wrote

the next thing I knew I was rolling down one of 09's taxiways and Tower
was saying, "Juliet Tango Mike, you OK out there?"

Brian


The proper response for that situation should have been, "Give me a minute.
I ain't done crashin', yet!" VBG


Ahhh... Stand by one, I'm busy counting seat cushions.

Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member)
(N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair)
www.rogerhalstead.com

 




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