Runway Lighting

Here's some more trivia.....
Those rabbit lights sequence at a speed of over 4000mph
I read it one of the flying magazines....either Flying or AOPA..can't recall
which




"Bill Denton" wrote in message
...

"Have you ever been to the dog races?"

Which takes us to trivia time...

At dog races, they use a mechanical rabbit. The mechanical rabbit was
invented in Chicago by an attorney, whose name was O'Hare.

O'Hare was in someway connected to the Capone mob. He had a son, and
didn't
want his misdeeds to come down upon his son, so he to some extent "ratted
out" the Capone organization.

O'Hare's son, Butch, managed to escape the shame that might have come to
him
from his father's association with Capone.

Butch O'Hare became a pilot in the US Navy in WWII, became a hero, and was
killed in action.

Somewhere along the way you may have seen the airport identifier: ORD. It
stands for Orchard Field, which was the original name of the airport that
was later renamed in honor of an heroic Navy pilot.

Chicago's O'Hare airport - ORD





"Larry Dighera" wrote in message
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On Sat, 29 Jan 2005 09:21:30 -0500, "Toks Desalu"
wrote in
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I still wonders why pilots call that a "rabbit." It doesn't even look
like
a rabbit.

Have you ever been to the dog races?

So, why didn't they make the rabbit thing bigger, and call it a "hare"?

Sorry,

-Rob

"Bill Denton" wrote in message
...

"Have you ever been to the dog races?"

Which takes us to trivia time...

At dog races, they use a mechanical rabbit. The mechanical rabbit was
invented in Chicago by an attorney, whose name was O'Hare.

O'Hare was in someway connected to the Capone mob. He had a son, and
didn't
want his misdeeds to come down upon his son, so he to some extent "ratted
out" the Capone organization.

O'Hare's son, Butch, managed to escape the shame that might have come to
him
from his father's association with Capone.

Butch O'Hare became a pilot in the US Navy in WWII, became a hero, and was
killed in action.

Somewhere along the way you may have seen the airport identifier: ORD. It
stands for Orchard Field, which was the original name of the airport that
was later renamed in honor of an heroic Navy pilot.

Chicago's O'Hare airport - ORD





"Larry Dighera" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 29 Jan 2005 09:21:30 -0500, "Toks Desalu"
wrote in
::

I still wonders why pilots call that a "rabbit." It doesn't even look
like
a rabbit.

Have you ever been to the dog races?

On 1/29/05 6:51 PM, in article
, "Rob Montgomery"
wrote:

So, why didn't they make the rabbit thing bigger, and call it a "hare"?

Sorry,

-Rob


'Cause the dude's already got a humongous airport named after him. Anyone
can see that's more than enough.
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"Larry Dighera" wrote in message
.. .
On Sat, 29 Jan 2005 09:21:30 -0500, "Toks Desalu"
wrote in
::

I still wonders why pilots call that a "rabbit." It doesn't even look
like
a rabbit.

Have you ever been to the dog races?


On Sat, 29 Jan 2005 14:31:26 -0600, "Bill Denton"
wrote in ::

Which takes us to trivia time...

At dog races, they use a mechanical rabbit. The mechanical rabbit was
invented in Chicago by an attorney, whose name was O'Hare.

O'Hare was in someway connected to the Capone mob. He had a son, [...}


O'Hare Airport was named after the son of "Easy Eddie" O'Hare, mobster
Al Capone's attorney (who happened to be "Butch" O'Hare, the Navy's
first fighter ace). Chicago is a notoriously lawless place.

if your instructor does not know the answer... or does not know where to
tell you to go look it up..

what else does he not know... maybe time to find another instructor?

BT

"Slick" wrote in message ...
What is that thing that the beginning of the active runway that has
flashing
lights that flash sequentially toward the runway. I think it was about 4
or
5 lights. My instructor calls it a rabbit, but I can't find it anywhere in
the AIM. Whatever it is, is it listed in the AFD upon whether or not the
airport has it?



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On Sat, 29 Jan 2005 07:49:41 -0800, "BTIZ"
wrote:

if your instructor does not know the answer... or does not know where to
tell you to go look it up..

what else does he not know... maybe time to find another instructor?

Oh don't start that again. The guy just asked a simple question about
lighting that deals with instrument approaches. He did not say that
he is working on his instrument ticket. If I had a private pilot
student asking me questions like that, I dont know if I would start
getting technical on him either and start explaining to him how they
work, why they are there, etc.... That would be like going into what
all the lines are on the runway for a precision approach are used for,
he just doesnt need to know the technical stuff like that at this
point. Now if he is working on his instrument rating, then that is
different story. But get the whole story first before making the OP
fell like he has an inadequate instructor.


Scott D

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So why didn't the instructor just tell him what they are instead of using a
slang term that only goes to confuse the student..

He could have just as easily said " they are sequenced flashing lights, used
to help an instrument pilot find and align himself to the runway at the end
of an instrument approach."..

So then the student goes and looks up "sequence flashing lights"... and
learns.. instead of "rabbits"... and can't find anything..

Scott... me thinks thou dost protest to much.... are you that type of
instructor?

BT

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On Sat, 29 Jan 2005 07:49:41 -0800, "BTIZ"
wrote:

if your instructor does not know the answer... or does not know where to
tell you to go look it up..

what else does he not know... maybe time to find another instructor?

Oh don't start that again. The guy just asked a simple question about
lighting that deals with instrument approaches. He did not say that
he is working on his instrument ticket. If I had a private pilot
student asking me questions like that, I dont know if I would start
getting technical on him either and start explaining to him how they
work, why they are there, etc.... That would be like going into what
all the lines are on the runway for a precision approach are used for,
he just doesnt need to know the technical stuff like that at this
point. Now if he is working on his instrument rating, then that is
different story. But get the whole story first before making the OP
fell like he has an inadequate instructor.


Scott D

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On Sat, 29 Jan 2005 22:04:10 -0800, "BTIZ"
wrote:


Scott... me thinks thou dost protest to much.... are you that type of
instructor?


Not protesting, It just seems like anytime someone comes on this ng
and asks a question, there is always someone saying, "If your
instructor doesn't know, maybe its time to get another one". Or your
CFI is doing this or doing that... Fire Him!. It gets old. I bet if
you do a Google search and almost anytime the word CFI comes up and it
has to deal with training some always says this.

The one thing that I can tell you is that when you are instructing,
this is the time when you really learn about flying. Yea, you might
"THINK" you know most of the knowledge when you get your private
ticket, but I can bet you that you probably don't even know 25%. I
remember when I had my first student. I had maybe 300 hours. It was
the students that taught me. Even now, after all these years, I still
come across a situation where I have to look things up or asking my
fellow pilots who have 25000 hours and they sometimes will not know so
we look it up together (should the company fire them???). looking
something up with the student is the preferable choice, but with this
guy, it may have been a passing question while they were on final and
it was never brought up again in the post flight briefing.

Which brings me to my point. His instructor may be perfectly suited
to meet this persons needs of getting his private license. He may be
a newly minted CFI who is just now in that learning process of how to
teach and teach well. He may not be a CFII. And if that's the case,
he may not actually know the correct term because he may not use that
knowledge everyday. I have seen some people come out of these License
mills and the only thing they were taught was how to pass their
examiners check rides. Its a shame but it happens all the time.
Speaking from my own experience, ( which I did not come from one of
those mills. I did mine all part 61 with a personal instructor) when
I got my instrument rating, I sure as hell didn't know everything off
the top of my head and it was probably 6 months later before I got
myself back into IMC and that was with another pilot on board and I
was NOT comfortable.

One thing that I would tell my students is that I can not teach them
everything about flying. They have to take it upon their own
initiative to learn. To be able to open up a book and read. Ask
questions to other pilots, which is what he is doing here.

Now tell me, besides this post (in your opinion), where have you seen
me protest before?


Scott D

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