what is it about women?

Well, that is about what I would have said and I am not a Vagino-American.


"Judy Ruprecht" wrote in message
...
At 03:30 10 January 2004, Jim Culp wrote:
Questions regarding females and gliding:

1. Why do more females not fly gliders?
(Therein may be answer to why are there so few women
glider pilots.)

(And there followed a bunch of balderdash!)

Here, IMHO, is the reason there aren't more US women
in soaring: their parents/significant others/spouses/children/
friends are not apt to say...

'Oh yes, $75 - 100 per flight is a reasonable amount
to pay for the 20 to 30 flights you'll need to solo...
(and later on, 'Gee, a gently used ASW 20 with a Cobra
trailer really is a steal at under $30,000.')

'I'd love to crew for you.'

'I understand tomorrow's soaring forecast looks great,
so I'll (pick one: take the day off/hire a babysitter)
to take care of the kids for you.'

'I'd love to crew for you.'

'Hi, Toots. My name is Prince Charming, I have my own
hair and teeth, neither of which needs to be stashed
on a bedside table over night. I own an air conditioned
motorhome with a 1 7/8 ball and I know my way around
the root end of the wing during assembly of the aforementioned
ASW-20. I will never tell you to quit flying gliders
and I will thrill to the dulcet tone of your voice
every time you say, 'There I was at 500 feet...' '

'I'd love to crew for you.'

Any more questions?

Judy

The more I read this string the more I laugh my head off. I am forwarding
this all over the country. It is such a pure description of the problem
within the question that I am roaring out loud. I know about a dozen women
that could not get as far down as Judy did before shaking their heads and
clicking off.

This is great stuff. See, reality is so much funnier than fantasy.

It is the basic premise upon which Pez is founded.

What is it about women indeed............



"Jim Culp" wrote in message
...


Questions regarding females and gliding:

Please find below,
several questions considering constitution, psychology,
and motivations of women,
for your sincere proffers and posits
hereunto:

1. Why do more females not fly gliders?
(Therein may be answer to why are there so few women
glider pilots.)
a) are they afraid?

b) do they feel no sense of gain by accomplishing
flight?

c) is their (female) fear mechanism and psychology
different from that of males? how?

d) is their (female) thrill and joy psychology intrinsically
different from that of males? how?

2. Why do more females not seek out gliding aviation
and sport much as they may for male company and sport
among hang glider pilots and for among male parachute
jumpers and sport?

3. If male glider pilots came to the airfield in Limousines,
wore tatoos and had ear and tongue piercings, used
and gave away currently popular illegal drugs, and
flashed Gold debtcards, would more females be attracted
to gliding than now?

4. Is this subject forbidden in America or in worldwide
discussion of gliding?

Your posits and proffers from males and females, giving
serious thought and expository composition, shall be
interesting. goferit.

Dancing on clouds,

Keep it up!

Jim Culp USA
GatorCity Florida

'Have glider
Will travel'

This is great stuff. See, reality is so much funnier
than fantasy.

It is the basic premise upon which Pez is founded.

What is it about women indeed............

Gee, combine

1.) Sailplane pilot physiques,

2.) Sharp dressed pilot attire,

3.) Garden spot locals,

4.) Aforementioned communication skills and open-minded
attitudes,

5) Ability to dweeb over fascinating issues of thermal
structure, instrument interfacing and software glitches,


PEZ is us.

"Gary Boggs" wrote in message ...
I don't know why there aren't more women in soaring but the ones that are
involved are definitely the cream of the crop, best of the best, examples of
great people you could
ever hope to find! I still get a warm and cozy feeling when I remember at
the 15meter nationals in Tonopah when all the men were using a microphone
to talk and then Cindy had something to say, she didn't need one of those
wimpy microphones! Here's to Cindy and Judy and Marion and Doris and Jan
and all the rest of the wives and crew and pilots that ARE involved in our
great sport!

P.S. Is it too obvious that I'm single?

Gary Boggs and my faithful dog, Rotor.



It's not obvious until folks see the art on the tail of your glider Gary!
lol

3D

In article ,
(David) wrote:

I don't buy it. Our club has three gliders and forty or so
members, all of whom are men (I think). Club membership is
pretty painless - $425 a year plus tows.

On the other hand, I don't have any great ideas as to why
there are so few women, other than soaring enthusiasts in general
are some of the most surly and socially inept misfits
I've known.

David


It really is very simple. I can sum it up in two words:

RESTROOM FACILITIES

Glider fields with clean and convenient toilet facilities have no lack
of female pilots.

The broader question is why aren't more PEOPLE involved in soaring. The
answer to getting more people involved in soaring is to establish more
private gliding sites like Caesar Creek or Newcastle, etc. where we can
have a welcoming atmosphere and clean and convenient facilities. Visit
Caesar Creek or Soaring Society of Memphis for a weekend and you will
see.

Some commercial operations do a great job in this respect. However, the
realities of making a living out of commercial soaring make it very
difficult to match the social aspects of a great club.

Just as an aside: Have you ever noticed that despite the fact most of us
male glider pilots really do resemble Pez, our wives tend to be pretty
good looking?

I'm just an artsy kind of guy I guess?


"Jay Todd" wrote in message
om...
"Gary Boggs" wrote in message
...
I don't know why there aren't more women in soaring but the ones that are
involved are definitely the cream of the crop, best of the best, examples
of
great people you could
ever hope to find! I still get a warm and cozy feeling when I remember at
the 15meter nationals in Tonopah when all the men were using a microphone
to talk and then Cindy had something to say, she didn't need one of those
wimpy microphones! Here's to Cindy and Judy and Marion and Doris and Jan
and all the rest of the wives and crew and pilots that ARE involved in our
great sport!

P.S. Is it too obvious that I'm single?

Gary Boggs and my faithful dog, Rotor.



It's not obvious until folks see the art on the tail of your glider Gary!
lol

3D

It's not just women. The gliderports that I've been to in the U.S. are
dominated not just men but by *caucasian* men. Members of all minorities
are welcome at my club but they simply don't show up on the field for
intro lessons - let alone apply for membership. Personally, I would
welcome the diversity.

Tony V.
http://www.soargbsc.org

Tony Verhulst wrote:
It's not just women. The gliderports that I've been to in the U.S. are
dominated not just men but by *caucasian* men. Members of all minorities
are welcome at my club but they simply don't show up on the field for
intro lessons - let alone apply for membership. Personally, I would
welcome the diversity.

Gee Tony, I've flown a few times with some of your fellow club members
when I've been back in the Boston area, so at least one of us show up.
I'll try to spread a bit more diversity next time I'm out there ;^)

Marc

Kizuno wrote:

In the UK and Eastern Europe, I recall seeing a number of active,
enthusiastic,
YOUNG (and mature) and talented female pilots. There are enough to hold a
Women's championship, and I remember reading (and seeing) that female
glider
pilots in the UK are something like 10% of the total. Jim's comments are
directed at the US, but clearly there are drivers (like a strong club
structure I'd think) that are not likely to change in the States.

No solutions, just observations..........

And there've always been women pilots here in the UK who have distinguished
themselves one way or another. I can think of at least two women national
champions (Sally Wells, Anne Burns), and some of us are old enough to know
how much we all owe to Anne Welch.

However this thread did remind me of the comment of the first girl friend I
ever took up in a glider: "Don't you get bored flying round in circles all
the time?"
--
Soar the big sky
The real name on the left is richard

"Richard Brisbourne" wrote in message
...
Kizuno wrote:

In the UK and Eastern Europe, I recall seeing a number of active,
enthusiastic,
YOUNG (and mature) and talented female pilots. There are enough to hold
a
Women's championship, and I remember reading (and seeing) that female
glider
pilots in the UK are something like 10% of the total. Jim's comments
are
directed at the US, but clearly there are drivers (like a strong club
structure I'd think) that are not likely to change in the States.

No solutions, just observations..........

And there've always been women pilots here in the UK who have
distinguished
themselves one way or another. I can think of at least two women national
champions (Sally Wells, Anne Burns), and some of us are old enough to know
how much we all owe to Anne Welch.

However this thread did remind me of the comment of the first girl friend
I
ever took up in a glider: "Don't you get bored flying round in circles all
the time?"
--
Soar the big sky
The real name on the left is richard

Yup, no spatial awareness.
Bloody wimmin, If god had meant them to fly he'd have given them brains.






























































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