Color Platforms for Top Hat/XCSoar

On 6/23/2017 3:03 PM, wrote:
What color devices are pilots using for Top Hat/XCSoar? I'm running Top Hat on a Kobo Glo (large eink gray scale--great readability) and a Dell Streak 5 (smaller screen, color, acceptable readability). If the Dell were a little brighter and larger, it would be perfect.

Options seem to range from other mobile phones all the way up to the OpenVario project (at least for XCSoar). What works for you?

Chip Bearden
"JB"

Left my XCSoar dedicated Yotaphone 2 (e-ink display) at home this
weekend so ended up flying with my regular phone Samsung S8 instead,
screen was very bright and perfectly sun readable.

FWIW

Luke

On Monday, June 26, 2017 at 10:49:05 AM UTC-4, Luke Szczepaniak wrote:
On 6/23/2017 3:03 PM, Chip Bearden wrote:
What color devices are pilots using for Top Hat/XCSoar? I'm running Top Hat on a Kobo Glo (large eink gray scale--great readability) and a Dell Streak 5 (smaller screen, color, acceptable readability). If the Dell were a little brighter and larger, it would be perfect.

Options seem to range from other mobile phones all the way up to the OpenVario project (at least for XCSoar). What works for you?

Chip Bearden
"JB"

Left my XCSoar dedicated Yotaphone 2 (e-ink display) at home this
weekend so ended up flying with my regular phone Samsung S8 instead,
screen was very bright and perfectly sun readable.

FWIW

Luke

Anyone know how the current Samsung generation compares to, say, the Note 4 and 5? They are reported to be quite usable in sunlight, as well.

Chip Bearden
"JB"

Bump.

Still looking for the perfect solution. OK, better than a Dell Streak 5 or Kobo Glo. I just acquired a Pixel 2 XL: superb mobile phone but the display is not much, if any, better in bright sunlight.

We were discussing this the other day and P3 mentioned some newer Chinese phablets that might be suitable. Any ideas?

It also appears that at least one pilot has installed TopHat on an Open Vario platform running Android.

Chip Bearden

On Fri, 27 Apr 2018 15:01:45 -0700, chip.bearden wrote:

It also appears that at least one pilot has installed TopHat on an Open
Vario platform running Android.

If you can find one and don't mind a 3.5" screen, I'd recommend the Medion
S.3747 navigation device. Its got a nice, bright transreflective screen,
so is readable with direct sun on it. The colours are a lot denser than
they were on the somewhat pastel iPAQs. It has a built-in pressure
sensor, 1600 mAh and easily accessable battery, a micro-SD slot (under
the battery so you're unlikely to lose the card),
can transfer data between a PC and the micro-SD card, and is a lot better
made than the average PNA, probably because it was intended for use by
walkers as well as drivers. I got mine in 2014 and run LK8000 on it.


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Martin | martin at
Gregorie | gregorie dot org

It also appears that at least one pilot has installed TopHat on an Open Vario platform running Android.

Chip Bearden

The Open Vario runs a version of Linux on a Cubieboard 2. Much faster than Android. The kits from Stefan Janger are a delight to assemble and can be "stalk" mounted if you want.

Caz Yokoyama has ported the TopHat software to the Open Vario and you can actually select either XCSoar, TopHat or LK8000 at boot, in the current system image. I've flown with both the 5.7 and 7" screens from texim and they're both easy to see in direct sunlight.

Mike

It also appears that at least one pilot has installed TopHat on an Open Vario platform running Android.

Chip Bearden

The Open Vario runs a version of Linux on a Cubieboard 2. Much faster than Android. The kits from Stefan Langer are a delight to assemble and can be "stalk" mounted if you want.
https://www.stefly.aero/

Caz Yokoyama has ported the TopHat software to the Open Vario and you can actually select either XCSoar, TopHat or LK8000 at boot, in the current system image. I've flown with both the 5.7 and 7" screens from Texim and they're both easy to see in direct sunlight.

Mike

On Friday, April 27, 2018 at 7:47:35 PM UTC-5, SoaringXCellence wrote:
It also appears that at least one pilot has installed TopHat on an Open Vario platform running Android.

Chip Bearden

The Open Vario runs a version of Linux on a Cubieboard 2. Much faster than Android. The kits from Stefan Langer are a delight to assemble and can be "stalk" mounted if you want.
https://www.stefly.aero/

Caz Yokoyama has ported the TopHat software to the Open Vario and you can actually select either XCSoar, TopHat or LK8000 at boot, in the current system image. I've flown with both the 5.7 and 7" screens from Texim and they're both easy to see in direct sunlight.

Mike

I fly in the USA with an OpenVario I built, with a Texim 5.7" screen running XCSoar. Very readable in all conditions. I have over 160 hours on it so far over a year and a half of flying, wide variety of environmental conditions, no heating problems. It has worked great except for two in-flight freezes early on, which seem to have been resolved, perhaps by an SD card image update.

I am intrigued with TopHat for the OpenVario. Does it require a touchscreen? I currently do not have a touchscreen on my OpenVario, although I could hook one up, the interface is there. But I don't want to degrade the excellent sunlight readability by integrating a touch screen. I currently have a remote (SteFly's stick buttons/Arduino with modified code) and also SteFly's dual rotary encoder unit, and would like to stick with them. Also, any links to a download for TopHat for OpenVario?

Cheers,
Jim Hogue J6

Im using a Sony xperia Z3, and it works very well in sunlight. Tried a friends Samsung Galaxy 7 that worked well too.

On Saturday, April 28, 2018 at 3:31:38 AM UTC-6, wrote:
Im using a Sony xperia Z3, and it works very well in sunlight. Tried a friends Samsung Galaxy 7 that worked well too.



I have a Galaxy 5S with an AMOLED screen which is supposed to be great in direct sunlight, but it is not nearly as visible in direct sunlight as my sold Streak was. Are the LCD screens any better? Are the newer AMOLD screens better than the earlier generation AMOLD screens?

Thanks for any insight.

Mike

Hi Mike,

If you're really in need, and want a Streak, I have two spares, loaded
with XCSoar, and I can fix you up.Â* I got the spares because I like them
so much but they've proven to be quite reliable.Â* See me at the airport
or shoot me a PM.

Dan

On 5/27/2018 7:52 PM, Mike C wrote:
On Saturday, April 28, 2018 at 3:31:38 AM UTC-6, wrote:
Im using a Sony xperia Z3, and it works very well in sunlight. Tried a friends Samsung Galaxy 7 that worked well too.


I have a Galaxy 5S with an AMOLED screen which is supposed to be great in direct sunlight, but it is not nearly as visible in direct sunlight as my sold Streak was. Are the LCD screens any better? Are the newer AMOLD screens better than the earlier generation AMOLD screens?

Thanks for any insight.

Mike

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Dan, 5J