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If the US$ continues to sink, the trade imbalance will correct itself: imports
of any type will be too expensive, and US exports will boom, sailplanes included. Cheers, Charles |
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![]() "Vorsanger1" wrote in message ... If the US$ continues to sink, the trade imbalance will correct itself: imports of any type will be too expensive, and US exports will boom, sailplanes included. Cheers, Charles I don't know about that Charles. If the Czechs and Poles can't match German build quality what hope have the Yank's got? Ian ( only slightly tounge in cheek ) |
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tango4 wrote:
"Vorsanger1" wrote in message ... If the US$ continues to sink, the trade imbalance will correct itself: imports of any type will be too expensive, and US exports will boom, sailplanes included. Cheers, Charles I don't know about that Charles. If the Czechs and Poles can't match German build quality what hope have the Yank's got? Ian ( only slightly tounge in cheek ) One might say they went 'bossies' minimum 4 year recovery period. ;-) As for matching build quality. It appears to be more the combination of price and proximity to market that counts. Standards argument about "built to price" and "value for money" - most people will buy what they can see and feel, preferably from someone they can understand. Scary discovery to find that there are less than 100 insured gliders in South Africa. Not going to get far manufacturing them here no matter what the quality. |
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tango4 wrote:
"Vorsanger1" wrote in message ... If the US$ continues to sink, the trade imbalance will correct itself: imports of any type will be too expensive, and US exports will boom, sailplanes included. Cheers, Charles I don't know about that Charles. If the Czechs and Poles can't match German build quality what hope have the Yank's got? The US will be able to match German build quality in our exports, because, unfortunately, most of the sailplanes we are likely to export as the dollar weakens will be German sailplanes, which will become attractively priced outside the US. For any manufacturer, "build quality" is just one factor in a successful product, as LS can tell you. Even the Germans don't all buy Mercedes or BMWs. The US designed and manufactured SparrowHawk, for example, offers offers features like none of the German manufacturers, along with good quality construction. -- Change "netto" to "net" to email me directly Eric Greenwell Washington State USA |
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Eric Greenwell wrote in message ...
Vaughn wrote: "Mike Stringfellow" wrote in message om... Economic models would suggest a strong incentive for sailplane manufacture in North America, Like this? http://www.peregrinesailplane.com/ Vaughn Or like this: http://www.windward-performance.com/ And if the US$ continues to sink, maybe some of these will find their way to Europe. We'll have to sell boatloads to make up for our trade imbalance, though. Glider exports to Europe will have to deal with the airworthiness issue. There is no "Experimental" category in Europe like the 'Racing and Exhibition' niche that so many of us - including me - have registered their gliders in. That may be the reason why I've never come across a US made glider during my time in Germany, come to think of it. Bureaucracy is still king, particularly in Germany. Herb, J7 |
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![]() "Herbert Kilian" wrote in message om... Glider exports to Europe will have to deal with the airworthiness issue. There is no "Experimental" category in Europe like the 'Racing and Exhibition' niche that so many of us - including me - have registered their gliders in. That may be the reason why I've never come across a US made glider during my time in Germany I don't think that is the *only* reason you don't see US gliders in Europe, but airworthiness should not be an issue for the Peregrine; it already has both US and JAR-22 certification. Vaughn come to think of it. Bureaucracy is still king, particularly in Germany. Here in the good 'ole USA also! Vaughn Herb, J7 |
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Eric Greenwell wrote:
... And if the US$ continues to sink, maybe some of these will find their way to Europe. We'll have to sell boatloads to make up for our trade imbalance, though. Nope, since they don't meet the criteria for being certified and there is no category like "expereimental' in tha US, and anyway the cost and length of the certification process would probably discourage the manufacturer to attempt it. |
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Windward Performance is hoping that the recommendation of the EASU for
an ultralight glider (80 kg empty) regulation is taken up by more European countries. We have heard that Germany has adopted this rule but haven't confirmed it yet. This combined with a base price of $33,950 and performance very nearly that of a used LS4 should mean that Europe as well as the U.S.A. will be a good market for the SparrowHawk. (I flew closely with an LS4 for a couple hours on a pretty weak day so can't comment on high speeds. At the speeds we were flying, there was no difference) Not to mention extremely fun handling qualities and very safe low speed handling. As more SparrowHawks have been delivered (12 flying now), people are seeing that it is not limited, but enhanced by being an ultralight and our sales have been increasing in the U.S. A European dealer should be available soon. This will open a MUCH bigger market than the U.S. and hopefully increased volume will help off set some of the price increases in materials that we have been suffering. Best regards, Doug Taylor Windward Performance, LLC Nope, since they don't meet the criteria for being certified and there is no category like "expereimental' in tha US, and anyway the cost and length of the certification process would probably discourage the manufacturer to attempt it. |
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Doug Taylor wrote:
Windward Performance is hoping that the recommendation of the EASU for an ultralight glider (80 kg empty) regulation is taken up by more European countries. We have heard that Germany has adopted this rule but haven't confirmed it yet. This combined with a base price of $33,950 and performance very nearly that of a used LS4 should mean that Europe as well as the U.S.A. will be a good market for the SparrowHawk. (I flew closely with an LS4 for a couple hours on a pretty weak day so can't comment on high speeds. At the speeds we were flying, there was no difference) Not to mention extremely fun handling qualities and very safe low speed handling. As more SparrowHawks have been delivered (12 flying now), people are seeing that it is not limited, but enhanced by being an ultralight and our sales have been increasing in the U.S. A European dealer should be available soon. This will open a MUCH bigger market than the U.S. and hopefully increased volume will help off set some of the price increases in materials that we have been suffering. Being classified as ultralight glider raises some other problems: it is a different category. As a glider pilot and instructor, I am not allowed to fly them, unless I get a new ultralight licence, for which I a have to take dual instruction somewhere where it is available, and on an aircraft which is probably fairly different from the intended ultralight glider. Anyway I would never be able to fly it at my home field, since ultrlights are not allowed at a distance under 50 km from Paris and my home field is at 40 km. Beside that, most gliders in France are club gliders and most pilots fly club gliders. In order for a club to propose ultralights, the club has to first propose ultralight instruction, i.e. buy some ultralight two-seater(s) and have ultralight instructors. This is a big change involving majors investments and I think few clubs would be ready to do that, as there is almost no demand for that now. So it seems that the possible market for the SparrowHawk is rather in private owners. But the 2 most spread motivations of private owners to be private owners rather than fly club gliders which are a lot less expensive are 1) competing in the classical FAI classes with the last state of the art glider; 2) being able to fly wihout being dependant of some help by using a motor glider, and the SparrowHawk doesn't suit to any of these 2 needs. |
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