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http://www.gpiaa-portugal-report.com/
Accident Investigation Final Report All Engines-out Landing Due to Fuel Exhaustion Air Transat Airbus A330-243 marks C-GITS Lajes, Azores, Portugal 24 August 2001 Final Investigation Report 22 / ACCID / 2001 18 October 2004 On August 24, 2001, Air Transat Flight TSC236, an Airbus 330-243 aircraft, was on a scheduled flight from Toronto Lester B Pearson Airport, Ontario (CYYZ), Canada to Lisbon Airport (LPPT), Portugal with 13 crew and 293 passengers on board. At 05:33, the aircraft was at 4244N/2305W when the crew noted a fuel imbalance. At 05:45, the crew initiated a diversion from the flight-planned route for a landing at the Lajes Airport (LPLA), Terceira Island in the Azores. At 05:48, the crew advised Santa Maria Oceanic Control that the flight was diverting due to a fuel shortage. At 06:13, the crew notified air traffic control that the right engine (Rolls-Royce RB211 Trent 772B) had flamed out. At 06:26, when the aircraft was about 65 nautical miles from the Lajes airport and at an altitude of about FL 345, the crew reported that the left engine had also flamed out and that a ditching at sea was possible. Assisted by radar vectors from Lajes air traffic control, the crew carried out an engines-out, visual approach, at night and in good visual weather conditions. The aircraft landed on runway 33 at the Lajes Airport at 06:45. After the aircraft came to a stop, small fires started in the area of the left main-gear wheels, but these fires were immediately extinguished by the crash rescue response vehicles that were in position for the landing. The Captain ordered an emergency evacuation; 16 passengers and 2 cabin-crew members received injuries during the emergency evacuation. The aircraft suffered structural damage to the fuselage and to the main landing gear. See the URL for the rest. -- Scott M. Kozel Highway and Transportation History Websites Virginia/Maryland/Washington, D.C. http://www.roadstothefuture.com Philadelphia and Delaware Valley http://www.pennways.com |
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Wow... thanks for the scoop...
You realize that this incident has already been reported on extensively and that there has even been a documentary made about it (shown on the program "Seconds From Disaster" or something like that. Scott M. Kozel wrote: http://www.gpiaa-portugal-report.com/ Accident Investigation Final Report All Engines-out Landing Due to Fuel Exhaustion Air Transat Airbus A330-243 marks C-GITS Lajes, Azores, Portugal 24 August 2001 Final Investigation Report 22 / ACCID / 2001 18 October 2004 On August 24, 2001, Air Transat Flight TSC236, an Airbus 330-243 aircraft, was on a scheduled flight from Toronto Lester B Pearson Airport, Ontario (CYYZ), Canada to Lisbon Airport (LPPT), Portugal with 13 crew and 293 passengers on board. At 05:33, the aircraft was at 4244N/2305W when the crew noted a fuel imbalance. At 05:45, the crew initiated a diversion from the flight-planned route for a landing at the Lajes Airport (LPLA), Terceira Island in the Azores. At 05:48, the crew advised Santa Maria Oceanic Control that the flight was diverting due to a fuel shortage. At 06:13, the crew notified air traffic control that the right engine (Rolls-Royce RB211 Trent 772B) had flamed out. At 06:26, when the aircraft was about 65 nautical miles from the Lajes airport and at an altitude of about FL 345, the crew reported that the left engine had also flamed out and that a ditching at sea was possible. Assisted by radar vectors from Lajes air traffic control, the crew carried out an engines-out, visual approach, at night and in good visual weather conditions. The aircraft landed on runway 33 at the Lajes Airport at 06:45. After the aircraft came to a stop, small fires started in the area of the left main-gear wheels, but these fires were immediately extinguished by the crash rescue response vehicles that were in position for the landing. The Captain ordered an emergency evacuation; 16 passengers and 2 cabin-crew members received injuries during the emergency evacuation. The aircraft suffered structural damage to the fuselage and to the main landing gear. See the URL for the rest. |
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Yes, Dave, I saw it on the National Geographic channel a year or so ago.
Personally, I felt impressed - I just could not believe such a plane can land without engines and total structural damages and passenger toll... Roman Dave S wrote: Wow... thanks for the scoop... You realize that this incident has already been reported on extensively and that there has even been a documentary made about it (shown on the program "Seconds From Disaster" or something like that. Scott M. Kozel wrote: http://www.gpiaa-portugal-report.com/ |
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I"m not sure why its such a surprise. The A330 has a great glide ratio.
The pilots had lots of good tools (speed brakes etc) to place their landing. As I recall, they almost ended up being too high. -Robert, CFI (Certified Flight Instructor) Roman Svihorik wrote: Yes, Dave, I saw it on the National Geographic channel a year or so ago. Personally, I felt impressed - I just could not believe such a plane can land without engines and total structural damages and passenger toll... Roman |
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![]() "Robert M. Gary" wrote in message oups.com... I"m not sure why its such a surprise. The A330 has a great glide ratio. The pilots had lots of good tools (speed brakes etc) to place their landing. As I recall, they almost ended up being too high. -Robert, CFI (Certified Flight Instructor) Also gotta have one of these: http://www.hamiltonsundstrandcorp.co..._PRD30,00.html |
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Hmm, why...
A great glide ratio - OK. But. They have just one attempt only. If failed... The precise calculation, correction maneuvers - I know. But if mistaken there is no go around. Considering terrain outside the strip... Still impressed. BTW, was that plane written off? Roman P.S. Actually, I am the glider sport pilot so I know quite well what it is about to land without engines :-) IMHO a jet plane with 300+ passengers aboard hardly be compared to a glider. Robert M. Gary wrote: I"m not sure why its such a surprise. The A330 has a great glide ratio. The pilots had lots of good tools (speed brakes etc) to place their landing. As I recall, they almost ended up being too high. -Robert, CFI (Certified Flight Instructor) |
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Roman Svihorik wrote:
Hmm, why... A great glide ratio - OK. But. They have just one attempt only. If failed... The precise calculation, correction maneuvers - I know. But if mistaken there is no go around. Considering terrain outside the strip... Still impressed. BTW, was that plane written off? Roman P.S. Actually, I am the glider sport pilot so I know quite well what it is about to land without engines :-) IMHO a jet plane with 300+ passengers aboard hardly be compared to a glider. Robert M. Gary wrote: I"m not sure why its such a surprise. The A330 has a great glide ratio. The pilots had lots of good tools (speed brakes etc) to place their landing. As I recall, they almost ended up being too high. -Robert, CFI (Certified Flight Instructor) M.Robert How is your loosing critical engin training ;-) hmmm on the old twin we have to pumpout the landing or used the emergency gas extent procedure only one shout, pump out the flaps by hands etc. What I really mean is no engin give you little functionnality, of course there is the little wind turbine for electricity to cockpit instrument and command hydrolic, but if I remember, not speed brake, no flaps (this will increase your landing speed alot ...), landing gear out bu no retract ... I dont think it was so easy ... |
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"Roman Svihorik" wrote in message
... Yes, Dave, I saw it on the National Geographic channel a year or so ago. Personally, I felt impressed - I just could not believe such a plane can land without engines and total structural damages and passenger toll... Roman Just about ANY airplane can be landed safely without engines, as long as the elevation and glide ratio allow a long enough glide to reach (and maneuver to) a runway. All pilots train to make such "dead stick" landings as a routine part of training, in any type of airplane. |
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"No Spam"
sednews ![]() "Roman Svihorik" wrote in message ... Yes, Dave, I saw it on the National Geographic channel a year or so ago. Personally, I felt impressed - I just could not believe such a plane can land without engines and total structural damages and passenger toll... Roman Just about ANY airplane can be landed safely without engines, as long as the elevation and glide ratio allow a long enough glide to reach (and maneuver to) a runway. All pilots train to make such "dead stick" landings as a routine part of training, in any type of airplane. Not including the Osprey, of course, where one of the possibilities put forward in how to deal with an engine failure was to point a gun at the pilot's head that would go off in such an eventuality so he wouldn't have to worry about it. Bertie Posted Via Usenet.com Premium Usenet Newsgroup Services ---------------------------------------------------------- ** SPEED ** RETENTION ** COMPLETION ** ANONYMITY ** ---------------------------------------------------------- http://www.usenet.com |
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![]() No Spam wrote: "Roman Svihorik" wrote in message ... Yes, Dave, I saw it on the National Geographic channel a year or so ago. Personally, I felt impressed - I just could not believe such a plane can land without engines and total structural damages and passenger toll... Roman Just about ANY airplane can be landed safely without engines, as long as the elevation and glide ratio allow a long enough glide to reach (and maneuver to) a runway. All pilots train to make such "dead stick" landings as a routine part of training, in any type of airplane. As attested to by the 'gimli glider'. Hope 'gimli' is correct, it has been awhile. Harry K |
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