Looks like you can buy a piece of Seminole

Does that come with free Tows?

On Sunday, July 26, 2020 at 9:50:12 AM UTC-4, Glidergeek wrote:
Does that come with free Tows?

Free tows and caramel popcorn at the carnival.

Maybe the Owner should try to sell the assets and a reasonable degree of goodwill to a consortium at fair market value? If you can't afford to own it outright maybe you shouldn't control it or propose an impasse.

As a Florida Native I would hate to see this gliderport close its doors and become another sleepy airport community (unless it were a gliding community open to visitors).

- Chris Schrader

On Monday, July 27, 2020 at 1:02:15 PM UTC-4, Christopher Schrader wrote:
Maybe the Owner should try to sell the assets and a reasonable degree of goodwill to a consortium at fair market value? If you can't afford to own it outright maybe you shouldn't control it or propose an impasse.

As a Florida Native I would hate to see this gliderport close its doors and become another sleepy airport community (unless it were a gliding community open to visitors).

- Chris Schrader

Chris, we would all hate to lose another flying site, and or gliderport. Probably the outright sale would be the way to go, make for a way less complicated management. I am sure that you remember the good ole days in Miami traveling up from the Keys with your dad to fly at the old Kendall Gliderport.. Not long after your flying days there off 168 street things changed and eventually closed, everyone was scrambling for a new place to fly. There was another commercial flying site in Indiantown, Bill Malone, a local aerial applicator provided tows and glider rental. The place was sold and gliders have never returned and are not welcome. Same situation at North County Airport, the glider operation was closed and never reopened. Same thing with Arcadia, and Labelle was pretty much dismantled after Tom's tragic accident.
I know that just about most old timers like myself can recall the same things happening to some of the gliderports that they once visited or flew out of. I for one have enjoyed my sailplane activity for many years, and have worked hard to carry the torch so to speak.

Bob, I agree , we can not loose this site. Last 2 managers made this site the best in US.
We know 2 proven managers, looks like we have many industrial real estate experts /pilots who could help as volunteers, site should be purchased by all of us., SSA, NSF, NAA.
Every respected gliding country has national gliding training center.
Are we 3 worlds country ?
Pls. try to be positive, and be respectful for people who worked so hard to made this site way better after mr. Knut sold it.
Our SSA headquaters should move there, and National Soaring Fundation should move there.
All of you who think can help with the technical part of the purchase should be harnessed , and I hope $2mil+ should be negotiated.
I would only buy brick or 2 of $500 if we have Andreea or Rich running the place.
Bricks : could be ; T glidr open hangar, 20 bricks, maybe , I dont know ? Rich can figure it out.
Point is, this is the only competition in US my wife is willing to to go with me.
It is run perfect now.
Thx to Rich and Andreea.
Love my friends.
Ryszard Krolikowski

On Tuesday, August 4, 2020 at 9:29:19 PM UTC-7, RW wrote:
Bob, I agree , we can not loose this site. Last 2 managers made this site the best in US.
We know 2 proven managers, looks like we have many industrial real estate experts /pilots who could help as volunteers, site should be purchased by all of us., SSA, NSF, NAA.
Every respected gliding country has national gliding training center.
Are we 3 worlds country ?
Pls. try to be positive, and be respectful for people who worked so hard to made this site way better after mr. Knut sold it.
Our SSA headquaters should move there, and National Soaring Fundation should move there.
All of you who think can help with the technical part of the purchase should be harnessed , and I hope $2mil+ should be negotiated.
I would only buy brick or 2 of $500 if we have Andreea or Rich running the place.
Bricks : could be ; T glidr open hangar, 20 bricks, maybe , I dont know ? Rich can figure it out.
Point is, this is the only competition in US my wife is willing to to go with me.
It is run perfect now.
Thx to Rich and Andreea.
Love my friends.
Ryszard Krolikowski

What a terrific idea - doing business with a convicted international criminal, what could go wrong?

Tom

At 04:29 05 August 2020, RW wrote:
Bob, I agree , we can not loose this site. Last 2 managers made this
site
the best in US.
We know 2 proven managers, looks like we have many industrial real
estate
experts /pilots who could help as volunteers, site should be purchased
by
all of us., SSA, NSF, NAA.
Every respected gliding country has national gliding training center.
Are we 3 worlds country ?
Pls. try to be positive, and be respectful for people who worked so
hard
to made this site way better after mr. Knut sold it.
Our SSA headquaters should move there, and National Soaring
Fundation
should move there.
All of you who think can help with the technical part of the purchase
should be harnessed , and I hope $2mil+ should be negotiated.
I would only buy brick or 2 of $500 if we have Andreea or Rich running
the
place.
Bricks : could be ; T glidr open hangar, 20 bricks, maybe , I dont
know ?
Rich can figure it out.
Point is, this is the only competition in US my wife is willing to to go
with me.
It is run perfect now.
Thx to Rich and Andreea.
Love my friends.
Ryszard Krolikowski



I believe there is a very famous gliderport in the north east which has
been for sale for quite a while, it has ridge, wave, thermal lift and the
distinction of being the launching point for many world and national
records - and owned by people who as far as I am aware have helped
develop soaring in the USA and are a honest as the day is long - so tell
me why Seminole is so special it should justify what you have proposed
above.

On Wednesday, August 5, 2020 at 2:45:04 AM UTC-4, Paul T wrote:
At 04:29 05 August 2020, RW wrote:
Bob, I agree , we can not loose this site. Last 2 managers made this
site
the best in US.
We know 2 proven managers, looks like we have many industrial real
estate
experts /pilots who could help as volunteers, site should be purchased
by
all of us., SSA, NSF, NAA.
Every respected gliding country has national gliding training center.
Are we 3 worlds country ?
Pls. try to be positive, and be respectful for people who worked so
hard
to made this site way better after mr. Knut sold it.
Our SSA headquaters should move there, and National Soaring
Fundation
should move there.
All of you who think can help with the technical part of the purchase
should be harnessed , and I hope $2mil+ should be negotiated.
I would only buy brick or 2 of $500 if we have Andreea or Rich running
the
place.
Bricks : could be ; T glidr open hangar, 20 bricks, maybe , I dont
know ?
Rich can figure it out.
Point is, this is the only competition in US my wife is willing to to go
with me.
It is run perfect now.
Thx to Rich and Andreea.
Love my friends.
Ryszard Krolikowski



I believe there is a very famous gliderport in the north east which has
been for sale for quite a while, it has ridge, wave, thermal lift and the
distinction of being the launching point for many world and national
records - and owned by people who as far as I am aware have helped
develop soaring in the USA and are a honest as the day is long - so tell
me why Seminole is so special it should justify what you have proposed
above.

Well, for one thing you can lay out semi naked by the pool in December and produce some vitamin D.

Walt

On Wednesday, August 5, 2020 at 12:29:19 AM UTC-4, RW wrote:
Bob, I agree , we can not loose this site. Last 2 managers made this site the best in US.
We know 2 proven managers, looks like we have many industrial real estate experts /pilots who could help as volunteers, site should be purchased by all of us., SSA, NSF, NAA.
Every respected gliding country has national gliding training center.
Are we 3 worlds country ?
Pls. try to be positive, and be respectful for people who worked so hard to made this site way better after mr. Knut sold it.
Our SSA headquaters should move there, and National Soaring Fundation should move there.
All of you who think can help with the technical part of the purchase should be harnessed , and I hope $2mil+ should be negotiated.
I would only buy brick or 2 of $500 if we have Andreea or Rich running the place.
Bricks : could be ; T glidr open hangar, 20 bricks, maybe , I dont know ? Rich can figure it out.
Point is, this is the only competition in US my wife is willing to to go with me.
It is run perfect now.
Thx to Rich and Andreea.
Love my friends.
Ryszard Krolikowski

I'm willing to bet that if you waived 2 million dollars under Mihai's nose right now he would break your hand taking it. In my personal (and Constitutionally protected) opinion it looks like Mihai is in need of a cash infusion. I could be wrong, it has happened in the past but it was a rare occurrence. I understood that he had several businesses back in Romania and elsewhere that needed his attention (ergo his return to the land of Vlad the Impaler) but then he says that SLGP is his "soul" business. Perhaps as part of his act of contrition to Romania he no longer has his other businesses? Inquiring minds want to know.

I doubt if Rich is still playing "vice Prez" for free. Ms. Luculescu told me she worked there for a year for FREE so it appears that Mihai had the payroll under control. (Unless there was a quid pro quo upon return to the motherland) The perfect minimum staff would be lead by a qualified Tow Pilot, CFIG, A&P, IA, E-I-E-I-O along with another tow pilot and instructor, perhaps more if the capacity utilization of the facility was brought up to speed. One might also consider a youngster, line boy, gopher aircraft washer, grass cutter for staging and hookups paid for by flying lessons...I would have jumped all over that position as a kid. SLGP does have potential but needs seasonal marketing (at least) to make the slow months more profitable..

I would hope by now that they have spiffed up the training gliders, new paint, UPHOLSTERY and the like. I realize that sign out on 33 is limited by county regulations as to size but it might just say "GLIDER RIDES" in big red letters with an arrow pointing down the road?

These are just my personal observations and Constitutionally protected opinions and not meant to disparage any individual or group. Soar on my friends and remember....DON'T KILL THE TOW PILOT.

WALT

Hi Walt. From another former tow pilot. Seminole was doing a rip-roaring business until covid-19 hit. There's money being made there. It's just not being spent where it should be.